Braces with kilt?

[Friday]

And I think he looks a right mess! He should sort out his belt and sporran.

Yes you are right, but,I must also disagree. What I saw was a young man, the boy in the blue T-shirt was with him the entire day, and his "grandfather" spending a day together at a Celtic fair. The Grandfather is probably retired and on a fixed income and has lost a LOT of weight in the past few years. Since he is on a fixed income the cost of a new kilt or even to have the one he has adjusted is out of his price range. He has a small case on his belt, maybe to hold his sun glasses, and on the other side maybe sporran straps or bottle holders. He is doing his best to introduce the young man to his heritage. With no hips he is doing the best he can with what he has.

[Chas]

Yes it is an unfortunate picture, but does illustrate the use of suspenders quite well.

As far as I am aware, we have a policy here of not attacking those who are not in a position to defend them selves. The gentleman in question is not a member. I think any further comment on the picture would be superfluous and just rude.

As an aside, I note that he is an honoured member of Clan Campbell.

Regards

Chas

[BCAC]

Yes you are right, but,I must also disagree. What I saw was a young man, the boy in the blue T-shirt was with him the entire day, and his "grandfather" spending a day together at a Celtic fair. The Grandfather is probably retired and on a fixed income and has lost a LOT of weight in the past few years. Since he is on a fixed income the cost of a new kilt or even to have the one he has adjusted is out of his price range. He has a small case on his belt, maybe to hold his sun glasses, and on the other side maybe sporran straps or bottle holders. He is doing his best to introduce the young man to his heritage. With no hips he is doing the best he can with what he has.

Maybe so, but, even if he's "on a fixed income" and he's "doing his best with what he has to introduce a young man (his grandson?) to his heritage" as you say (and good for him for that), why should that stop him trying to alter the length of his belt and sporran chain? I not saying that he should buy a new kilt or get this one altered, just that he should try to do something about his belt and sporran chain that are obviously too big and don't look good. Everyone is so PC on here. Even if he's not here to defend himself, I still have the right to say that I think that he looks a mess.

[Clockwork]

Maybe so, but, even if he's "on a fixed income" and he's "doing his best with what he has to introduce a young man (his grandson?) to his heritage" as you say (and good for him for that), why should that stop him trying to alter the length of his belt and sporran chain? I not saying that he should buy a new kilt or get this one altered, just that he should try to do something about his belt and sporran chain that are obviously too big and don't look good. Everyone is so PC on here. Even if he's not here to defend himself, I still have the right to say that I think that he looks a mess.

Maybe I'm misspeaking here, but as I've come to understand, XMTS has a policy which allows individuals to express how they prefer to dress themselves, but strongly discourages the act of stating that another individual is dressed 'wrong'. 'Right' and 'wrong' are subject to personal interpretation, and as such, judging a person's attire in these terms will only start trouble.

That aside, this thread is regarding suspenders being worn with kilts and not sporrans or belt size. Going off topic is best avoided.

Cheers,
-Jake

[BCAC]

So that's why, whenever someone posts a photo on here, there's always a stream of replies saying things like "looking good" even if that is evidently not the case. In this case I'm not saying that it's right or that it's wrong, I'm just saying that he looks a mess and he could have done something about it to look better. It seem's that everyone is very PC around here. I defend my right to say he looks a mess, but I'm not getting my "knickers in a knot" over it. I've stated my point of view and I will leave it at that. To bring the post back on topic, braces have been used with kilts in the past, some have even buttons sewn on for this purpose. No problems there.

[frank_a]

I love suspenders, mostly the button kind (in red), and was wondering about using braces with a kilt, or if people do that. Just seems to make sense to me. And yes, that older fellow with the braces is in Ancient Campbell tartan. He and I are no doubt related!

Frank

[CDNSushi]

Wearing braces (suspenders) AND a belt at the same time, looks absolutely silly.

I'm not talking about the photo posted earlier because it doesn't matter whether we're talking kilts or trousers. It just isn't done. Choose one and leave the other at home. Otherwise you end up looking like a 4 year-old who doesn't know how to dress himself and puts on his swimsuit over top of blue jeans and thinks he's ready to go to church.

So yeah, wear braces with your kilt if you think it looks alright, but leave the belt behind.

[Friday]

Wearing braces (suspenders) AND a belt at the same time, looks absolutely silly.

When wearing pants belts and braces/suspenders are designed for the same purpose, to hold the pants up. However, the belt is, or at least should not be, used to keep the kilt up. The belt worn with a kilt is designed to suspend dirks, pouches and shiny buckle from. If you are wearing braces and want to carry a dirk or a pouch it may be appropriate to wear both braces and a belt.

Is the opinion that braces and suspenders look sill a carry over from pants and is it appropriate to place pants etiquette upon a kilt wearer?

Point of trivia: According to a number of internet sites, in the US suspenders have a clip type of closure and braces have button tabs on the ends. In the UK both type are braces.

[ThistleDown]

Wearing braces (suspenders) AND a belt at the same time.... It just isn't done.

Oh dear, Sushi, my friend, we've been spending all too much time together. Words out of my mouth (and Jock's and others' too, I suspect), but in this case the braces are keeping his kilt at a height required by polite society, and the belt is being used to dangle things from, don't you know?

[flairball]

To clarify my situation; I don't care to wear braces with my kilt, but as I've lost a lot of weight, I must. I thought I'd explore the thought with a post here to see what the consensus was. I intend to wear a belt with the braces, but the braces will actually be hidden under a tweed.

As soon as my weight loss stabilizes I will send my kilt out to be tailored.