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    Authorised by the then Lord Bruce of Kinnaird in 1953.

    I should point out that the fact that it was authorised by a chief in 1953 has no bearing on the question as to the tartan's origins, beyond establishing that it existed by that date.

    Case in point the numerous chiefs giving their stamp of approval to the spurious designs created by the English Allen brothers.

    The Setts of the Scottish Tartans, published in 1950, only mentions the red Allen brothers' "Bruce".

    Is there a photo of this supposed 18th century Bruce of Kinnaird coat anywhere? Has any weaver recently examined it and reckoned its thread count? Inquiring minds want to know.

    BTW I'm very familiar with the Bruce of Kinnaird kilts worn by our regional band Mesa Caledonian, been seeing them around the games for decades. That tartan is strange because it juxtaposes so many odd colours: hot pink, lime green, mustardy orange, etc.

    Here it is in a photo I snapped at one of our games

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    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    [I]Is there a photo of this supposed 18th century Bruce of Kinnaird coat anywhere? Has any weaver recently examined it and reckoned its thread count? Inquiring minds want to know.
    As far as I know the original coat still belongs to the family. I mentioned that it had been displayed, along with several other Highland Revival pieces, at an exhibition, about 25-30 years ago - at the time of the first Gathering I seem to recall and since when it has not seen the light of day. It's another one of those pieces on my ever increasing long list of artefacts to examine - one day.

    BTW I'm very familiar with the Bruce of Kinnaird kilts worn by our regional band Mesa Caledonian, been seeing them around the games for decades. That tartan is strange because it juxtaposes so many odd colours: hot pink, lime green, mustardy orange, etc.
    That's simply because over time the 'Trade' has gone away from the original Wilsons' shades. The same is true of modern weavings of Dundee.

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    that Lochcarron "ancient" Bruce of Kinnaird is an improvement over the tartan that pipe band wears, I think.

    I like the Dalgiesh "reproduction" even more

    http://www.dcdalgliesh.co.uk/tartan_found.rpy?id=557804

    anybody weave it in the Wilsons colours? any photos of that coat so that we can see the colours?
    Last edited by OC Richard; 4th January 13 at 07:42 AM.
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