Aurora theate shooting preliminary hearing

[cessna152towser]

As Steve has said, the Moderators voted to let this thread run for now but we would remind you of
Rule #11
- Whenever someone brings up the subject of weapons, the discussion has always gone downhill rapidly. Because of this, we must insist that there will be no discussion, posting or photos of, weapons.
(We define 'weapon' as anything that is used to inflict damage or harm to living beings. Weapons as components of traditional or historic kilt attire, or as components of a prescribed uniform, may be exempt as long as the discussion does not become about the weapon itself or its use.)

This is a KILT forum and while we do allow discussion of other subjects in the miscellaneous section, weapons are expressly excluded by rule 11.
Nighthawk's thread has been allowed to run as his post was about his day in court and not about the actual shooting incident which gave rise to it but if this thread degenerates into debate for or against the right to carry firearms the thread will be immediately locked.

[Cygnus]

Nighthawk,

I'm thankful that your daughter and her friend were not physically injured. I pray for their emotional healing and for those families whose loved ones were killed.

David

I actually expected to see more responses like this than the one posted by David - but I would like to add a great big "+ 1" to that sentiment. What a horrible thing for anyone to witness - I sincerely hope that your daughter, her friend, and all the other survivors and families of the victims are able to find peace despite what they have been through.

[Jock Scot]

As Steve has said, the Moderators voted to let this thread run for now but we would remind you of
Rule #11
- Whenever someone brings up the subject of weapons, the discussion has always gone downhill rapidly. Because of this, we must insist that there will be no discussion, posting or photos of, weapons.
(We define 'weapon' as anything that is used to inflict damage or harm to living beings. Weapons as components of traditional or historic kilt attire, or as components of a prescribed uniform, may be exempt as long as the discussion does not become about the weapon itself or its use.)

This is a KILT forum and while we do allow discussion of other subjects in the miscellaneous section, weapons are expressly excluded by rule 11.
Nighthawk's thread has been allowed to run as his post was about his day in court and not about the actual shooting incident which gave rise to it but if this thread degenerates into debate for or against the right to carry firearms the thread will be immediately locked.

The problem is though Alex, we are all asked to adhere to the guiding principles of this web site before we join. Fair enough, and certain issues are indeed respectfully asked to be avoided, by those guiding principles, but------ and this is my point.

By having a miscellaneous section does create a grey area where non kilt issues can be discussed, again, fair enough, however is a guiding principle a rule? I think not. So I ask again if one "rule " is allowed to be "bent" for this particular section then for consistency's sake then perhaps the other "rules" should be "bent" too? A knotty problem, I grant you.

Personally I am on the whole happy to go along with the spirit of the intention of the rules and even the guiding principles. I would not be here otherwise. However I would be much happier if this cherry picking of rules to suit the occasion could cease----yes it does happen on occasion and things could be made clearer for ALL to understand.

[Nighthawk]

Sorry, but this is not about kilts is it? Even if every person in the theatre had been wearing a kilt and if every pedestrian walking passed on the outside had been wearing a kilt and if all the emergency workers who had to deal with it had been wearing kilts - the story is still not about kilts.
The story is about guns, gun crime and the aftermath, not about kilts.

Sorry, but this should not be here.

Regards

Chas

Sorry to offend you with the events of my life. When it happened, people here showed concern for my family. I thought this was a community of friends. I was talking to people whom I thought were my friends. If this is what X Marks has come to, then fine. I'm gone.

Nighthawk,

I'm thankful that your daughter and her friend were not physically injured. I pray for their emotional healing and for those families whose loved ones were killed.

David

Wow! There is a human being still on this board. Thanks, David. The next post or two I make in this thread will likely be my last on X Marks. I'm moving here: http://thescotsforum.com/forum.php I can actually talk to people there...

[McClef]

Speaking as an individual, I find the above comment to be unfair, that human beings are somehow rare on here.

We are all human beings trying to be sensitive and fair in emotive and difficult circumstances.

People are allowed to disagree and the fact of their disagreement does not make them unsympathetic or less human.

[Harold Cannon]

Hawk

I had no clue!!!!!

I have been out of the loop due to some health issues. I am so glad to hear that all is ok physically. I know there has to be a great emotional and mental trauma though. If you need anything or just to talk feel free to contact me here, on facebook, or at my email. haroldcannon@hotmail.com I can only say that I wish there were more that I could do.

[Zardoz]

Does this thread violate Rule 11? Not yet, but I think it will violate rule 11 or 5 sooner or later.

[Harold Cannon]

I could really care less about rule 11. I am more concerned with Hawk and his family.

THAT IS WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT HERE!

I just hope that the emotional and mental healing goes well. I see it as him speaking to his friends because it is a way of release to lighten the burden.

[English Bloke]

I'm with you Nighthawk. Please stand strong for your daughter and her friend. It's a terrible thing you've all had to endure. My heart goes out to you all.

[English Bloke]

Sorry, but this is not about kilts is it? Even if every person in the theatre had been wearing a kilt and if every pedestrian walking passed on the outside had been wearing a kilt and if all the emergency workers who had to deal with it had been wearing kilts - the story is still not about kilts. The story is about guns, gun crime and the aftermath, not about kilts.... Sorry, but this should not be here.

Chas... I can't believe you said that!!