Aurora theate shooting preliminary hearing

[Jock Scot]

I could really care less about rule 11. I am more concerned with Hawk and his family.

THAT IS WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT HERE!

I just hope that the emotional and mental healing goes well. I see it as him speaking to his friends because it is a way of release to lighten the burden.

PRECICELY!

The original post was posted in the miscellaneous section where kilt matters are not necessarily a topic, so nowhere where kilt matters are understandably sacrosanct. So I really cannot see what the fuss is about, but obviously there was and from the results, thus far, from the vote going on, there are more than some who are not happy over this thread. Which makes making what is and what is not acceptable on this particular section of the website more clear and consistent. Which would then help------I don't think solve is achievable-------alleviate the obvious angst and genuine hurt being generated with threads such as this.

[Zardoz]

I could really care less about rule 11. I am more concerned with Hawk and his family.

THAT IS WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT HERE!

I just hope that the emotional and mental healing goes well. I see it as him speaking to his friends because it is a way of release to lighten the burden.

Harold, I agree with you, I am not unsympathetic to what Nighthawk and his family went through, nor do I personally have an issue with him sharing it here. But, based on past issues I recognize there are a lot of folks on this forum that have strong and often disparate opinions on some of the underlying issues in the subject. So I forsee a lot of ways this thread could go south.

[flairball]

Sorry, but this is not about kilts is it? Even if every person in the theatre had been wearing a kilt and if every pedestrian walking passed on the outside had been wearing a kilt and if all the emergency workers who had to deal with it had been wearing kilts - the story is still not about kilts.
The story is about guns, gun crime and the aftermath, not about kilts.

Sorry, but this should not be here.

Regards

Chas

Are you kidding me? It's the Misc Forum. You know? For other than kilt related topics.

And are we really tha scared of rule 11 that we can't even discuss a topic that could stray a bit? I'm pretty sure that if it strays the Mods will give a gentle reminder, and the membership has proven to be mature enough to get back on track.

Hawk- should you decide to jump ship, I certainly don't blame you.

[Chas]

I will not be cast as the bad guy in this thread, because I am not. You all have the right to your opinion and so do I. What do you think the poll is for at the top of the page, if not for both sides of the argument?

We have rules here at X Marks the Scot, which in a lot of ways sets us apart from many of the other forums. We have rules in society. Those of you who were in the military know that their rules are rigorously enforced.

I content that this thread is about a gun crime and the aftermath of that crime and violates Rule 11 "the weapon itself or its use".

Just because this is the Miscellaneous Forum, does not mean that anything goes. The rules are the rules and nowhere in the rules does it say that rules will be relaxed in different areas.

People are allowed to disagree and the fact of their disagreement does not make them unsympathetic or less human.

@ Nighthawk -

Sorry to offend you with the events of my life.

I am not offended by the events of your life. I disagree with you. I think you are misguided for starting this thread. I am merely the man who has a different opinion to yours - I am not your enemy. There is really no need to take umbrage.

Regards

Chas

[flairball]

I content that this thread is about a gun crime and the aftermath of that crime and violates Rule 11
Chas

No. As I see it this is a discussion about a man's day in court, how a terrible tragedy is being handled, and how our courts deal with evil bastards.

Maybe we will all learn something from this. It may not be what we hoped to learn, but it could be beneficial to us all in the end.

Further, I can not help but think that this must be incredibly trying for Mr Nighthawk, and having an outlet where he can vent a bit is healthy. Even if his original post was out of order for not being kilt related I would hope that someone in the cyber-brigadoon brigade would have had the sense to PM him that it was, and provide an ear in a behind the scenes setting. But to blast him with an insensitive reply fitting for a troll shows a complete lack of empathy.

It also bears reminding, one does not have to read every thread and post that is created. It's as simple as pushing the back button. Of course pushing the back button, and pretending that this never happened doesn't change a thing.

Nighthawk, I wish you well, where ever you land in cyber space.

[Pleater]

I think I should apologise, I was the mod advocating returning this thread - thinking that there would be supportive posts to help Nighthawk face a return to the courtroom today. The original report of events at the theatre managed to survive here, and I thought that this follow up deserved to be on the forum too.

To those who thought along the same lines, thank you.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[McClef]

Chas - the poll should not be there for members to vote upon, it was created whilst the thread was moved to the Holding Cell for initial Moderator discussion before it was returned.

It should therefore be ignored.

[Dale Seago]

No. As I see it this is a discussion about a man's day in court, how a terrible tragedy is being handled, and how our courts deal with evil bastards.

Maybe we will all learn something from this. It may not be what we hoped to learn, but it could be beneficial to us all in the end.

Further, I can not help but think that this must be incredibly trying for Mr Nighthawk, and having an outlet where he can vent a bit is healthy. . .

+ 1

[Chas]

But to blast him with an insensitive reply fitting for a troll shows a complete lack of empathy

Name calling because I happen to disagree? And you call me a troll?

Regards

Chas

[Chas]

Chas - the poll should not be there for members to vote upon, it was created whilst the thread was moved to the Holding Cell for initial Moderator discussion before it was returned.

It should therefore be ignored.

Trefor - it is still available for all to see and vote on - and they are.

Regards

Chas