-
31st January 13, 01:58 PM
#1
Kirk, church, chapel?
What would be the appropriate name for a church(referring to the building itself)? (in the 1600's, Lowlands).
-
-
31st January 13, 02:23 PM
#2
As in 'the one down the road in the village'? Kirk.
-
-
31st January 13, 02:32 PM
#3
I have often wondered that, myself.
Correct me if I'm wrong here:
Kirk- the wee church down the road
Church- the religious establishment, the institution as a whole in concept
Chapel- a small, private area designated for intimate religious functions, usually in a castle, home, or other larger complex.
The Official [BREN]
-
-
31st January 13, 03:22 PM
#4
Agree with Bren though, of course, the Church of Scotland as an establishment is also referred to as "the Kirk". In the 1600s, a chapel in a big house might well have been secret with a secret priest so that the owner could have private Catholic or Episcopalian Services.
Alan
-
-
31st January 13, 03:24 PM
#5
Thanks, Neloon. It seemed logical.
The Official [BREN]
-
-
31st January 13, 03:28 PM
#6
Don't know about the wee church down the road. Muckle (large) kirk in Peterhead has a spire of 118 ft.
In our family in Scotland, church was never used in referance to the House of God, it was always kirk. No matter how big or small.
-
-
31st January 13, 03:45 PM
#7
Perhaps I should have said:
Kirk- the local place of worship for the general public.
The Official [BREN]
-
-
31st January 13, 04:13 PM
#8
According to the Concise Scots Dictionary the word kirk was used to refer to a church from the late 14th century on. So you are good for 17th century usage.
I would encourage anyone writing historical fiction set in Scotland who would like to get the Scots terminology correct to obtain a copy of the CSD.
-
-
1st February 13, 02:18 AM
#9
The Scottish National Dictionary is available online.
http://www.scots-online.org/dictionary/
Or you could get in touch with me. My wife is a lexicologist and was/is involved in producing all the Scots dictionaries (and others).
Alan
Last edited by neloon; 1st February 13 at 02:22 AM.
-
-
1st February 13, 03:05 AM
#10
Neloon,
How would one go about learning Scots? I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) that it share similarities with English. Thank you.
The Official [BREN]
-
Tags for this Thread
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
|
|
Bookmarks