Sound advice from Phil and Chas. I have both and have not worn the Montrose for about 20 years! It is generally much too warm in our modern centrally-heated buildings. It can only really be worn with a lace jabot or perhaps a lace-trimmed cravat so the level of formality is rather high. The Sheriffmuir I find is more flexible and can be worn with a lace jabot, lace-trimmed or plain 'white' cravat or black bow tie. As others have said, a variety of waistcoats or even a belt without a waistcoat can be worn with it. I have not worn it with a clerical collar Father Bill but a white cravat (the forerunner of the clerical collar) works well.

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