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23rd February 13, 07:35 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Panache
...a lovat blue jacket and waistcoat with lovat hose with one's solid color tie and flashes picking up a color from one's kilt.
Nowadays it would seem that there is a strong movement towards contrast. Patterned ties and shirts, hose that contrasts with colors of the kilt,etc.
Jamie
This seems to suggest that the tradition was about matching, and that contrast is a newfangled thing.
I don't know if that is accurate. I do know that myself, when I got into kiltwearing, was obsessed about matching things in spite of numerous examples around me of genuine Highlanders (present and past) and other Scots having a certain love of strong contrasts and sometimes shocking colour juxtapositions.
I remember seeing, back around 1980, somebody wearing a deep purple kilt with blazing scarlet hose and thinking it garish.
I remember seeing old guys wearing strongly patterned check tweed and plaid tweed jackets with their kilts and thinking it a bit much.
I studied Highland military dress and you couldn't get less matchy than that! A Black Watch kilt worn with red & white diced hose and a scarlet doublet with yellow facings etc.
So the "matching" thing was coming from my own false instincts, in spite of what I was seeing around me. It took me many years for the examples of the old guys to sink in, for their way of looking at things to become my way.
Here's the old look in the Army... which of us would think of putting a scarlet and yellow jacket with a Black Watch kilt, and with red& white hose?
![](http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/pancelticpiper/93rd1854.jpg?t=1278262659)
Growing up I saw all sorts of things like this but didn't learn the lesson... note that the jacket, hose, and hat don't match (from the Anderson 1936 catalogue)
![](http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/pancelticpiper/anderson36day.jpg)
and guys like John Burgess... note the hose colours don't match the kilt's at all
![](http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/pancelticpiper/johnburgess.jpg)
and when I got into studying The Highlanders of Scotland... who today would put those hose with that kilt?
![](http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/pancelticpiper/daycrop4.jpg)
On the other hand, this contemporary photo still strikes me as garish
![](http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/pancelticpiper/uglykit.jpg)
I'm trying, in my own dress, to avoid matching but at the same time co-ordinate somehow
Last edited by OC Richard; 23rd February 13 at 07:53 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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23rd February 13, 07:49 AM
#12
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by OC Richard
It took me many years for the examples of the old guys to sink in, for their way of looking at things to become my way.
In other words... after many years... (wait for it)... we become old guys. ;)
KEN CORMACK
Clan Buchanan
U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, USA
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23rd February 13, 08:47 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by unixken
In other words... after many years... (wait for it)... we become old guys. ;)
That's some truth, right there.
Virtus Ad Aethera Tendit
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23rd February 13, 09:35 AM
#14
I think that there are two things that need to be remembered -
Firstly, with the best will in the world, you can't wear something you haven't got.
Secondly, it is only in recent times that men, specifically, have had so many changes of dress. If you only have one jacket, that's the jacket you wear. There was a time when a man would wait expectantly for either Christmas or birthday to get a pair of hand knitted hose from his maiden aunt.
"French blue rather than navy blue - I'm not wearing those" - was said by no one, ever.
Regards
Chas
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23rd February 13, 09:36 AM
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one of the aspects of kilting that drew me in was that colors and styles can be blended (like panache/mcmurdo thread of 1 kilt/10 styles, CMcG's a kilt style guide and the new traditionalists). i have been long bored with corporate gray uniforms for work and for certain social occasions.
Last edited by opositive; 23rd February 13 at 09:44 AM.
LitTrog: Bah. You guys with your "knowledge" and "talents." Always taking the legs out from under my ignorant nincompoopery.
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23rd February 13, 11:12 AM
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Jamie,
I am with you on this. Sometimes I like being matchy-matchy and coordinated, other times I dress more casually. My sense of style has evolved over the last 2 1/2 years on this forum. I've been very positively influenced by members here both in my style and my confidence in kilt wearing.
Thanks for posting this.
Michael
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Alan H
Some days you're the bat, some days you're the watermelon.
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23rd February 13, 11:26 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Chas
I think that there are two things that need to be remembered -
Firstly, with the best will in the world, you can't wear something you haven't got.
Secondly, it is only in recent times that men, specifically, have had so many changes of dress. If you only have one jacket, that's the jacket you wear. There was a time when a man would wait expectantly for either Christmas or birthday to get a pair of hand knitted hose from his maiden aunt.
"French blue rather than navy blue - I'm not wearing those" - was said by no one, ever.
Regards
Chas
I really think you are on to something here. If ones outfit consists of his only tank, best jacket, hole-free hose, regimental tie, clean shirt, only muskrat sporran, and flashes that could be found then a Zen-like appearance will result.
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23rd February 13, 12:51 PM
#18
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Chas
... "French blue rather than navy blue - I'm not wearing those" - was said by no one, ever. ...
Actually, I have said that, .... when my wife washed my jockey shorts with my blue jeans.
I changed my signature. The old one was too ridiculous.
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23rd February 13, 01:00 PM
#19
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by mookien
Actually, I have said that, .... when my wife washed my jockey shorts with my blue jeans.
You walk round in public in just your jockey shorts ... ?
Regards
Chas
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23rd February 13, 01:22 PM
#20
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Chas
You walk round in public in just your jockey shorts ... ?
Regards
Chas
No! Of course not. I always wear a sombrero, too. It's pretty hot here in New Mexico in the summertime. I wouldn't be caught dead in French blue undies. After all, standards must be upheld. ![Wink](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
John
I changed my signature. The old one was too ridiculous.
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