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24th February 13, 10:54 AM
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And equally, the colors look fairly pale. Now maybe that's an "Ancient" or "Weathered" variant, but it certainly doesn't suggest the vividness that was implied as necessary, or preferable, in some earlier posts. There's a difference between "light" and "bright". That I tend to prefer a gold, like the top left square below, versus the one in the center square, will have it's consequences throughout the tartan, certainly. The same is said for the red, brown, and green in the Leaf Peeper.

Let us look for a moment, at the balance of the colors in the photos below. Can we honestly say that I'm so very far off the mark? These were taken two years ago, at the height of the season (Columbus Day weekend, 2011.) The first from along the Kanc, near the hair-pin, the second along the Swift River, the third, from the base of the Cog at Mt. Washington. (Note the train car is bright yellow... the trees are gold, and there are a fair number of green conifers.)
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At the higher elevations, of course, everything is conifer...
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And a shot of North Conway from Cathedral Ledge (hazy day, so everything is washed out.)
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A shot from somewhere along either Rt 3 or 302
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This is perhaps the "brightest" shot, that was taken from my hotel room. (And note there's still a lot of green in there.)
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Last edited by unixken; 24th February 13 at 10:55 AM.
KEN CORMACK
Clan Buchanan
U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, USA
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24th February 13, 11:09 AM
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Those who don't care for the green could always develop such variants as:
Leaf Peeper Gold Variant (substitutes yellow for the green):
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Leaf Peeper Red Variant (substitutes red for the green):
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KEN CORMACK
Clan Buchanan
U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, USA
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24th February 13, 11:45 AM
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This thread has taught me a lot about the different looks that can be a heaved just by pleating differently, quite enlightening stuff for a noob like myself!
"Everything is within walking distance if you've got the time"
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24th February 13, 12:01 PM
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 Originally Posted by GrainReaper
This thread has taught me a lot about the different looks that can be a heaved just by pleating differently, quite enlightening stuff for a noob like myself!
I'm always glad to see that others learn from this stuff as much as I do! If you're looking for more info on pleating, I whole heartedly urge you to check out the posts from Barb T and others, in the Professional Kiltmakers Hints and Tips section of this site!
Me, I'm currently learning from this discussion how people's perceptions of colors and proportions vary.
Last edited by unixken; 29th March 13 at 10:17 PM.
KEN CORMACK
Clan Buchanan
U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, USA
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24th February 13, 12:11 PM
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 Originally Posted by unixken
I'm always glad to see that others learn from this stuff as much as I do! If you're looking for more info on pleating, I whole heartedly urge you to check out the posts from Barb T and others, in the Professional Kiltmakers Hints and Tips section of this site!
Me, I'm currently learning from this discussion how people's perceptions of colors and proportions vary.
I will surely learn a lot from the above section! As for color perception, I'm colorblind so I never give it much thought or worry, (no matchy matchy with me, I just enjoy the colorblind mash up of kilt, shirt, cap, and hose/flashes because I can get away with it!)
"Everything is within walking distance if you've got the time"
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24th February 13, 12:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by GrainReaper
I will surely learn a lot from the above section! As for color perception, I'm colorblind so I never give it much thought or worry, (no matchy matchy with me, I just enjoy the colorblind mash up of kilt, shirt, cap, and hose/flashes because I can get away with it!)
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KEN CORMACK
Clan Buchanan
U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, USA
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24th February 13, 12:58 PM
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Ken, just so you understand me. It was not the red and yellow colors in your design I was objecting to. It was the green which I feel overpowers the other colors. On my computer, at least, your green appears to be almost black and is definitely the predominant color.
I very much like your "red variant". This I feel more closely represents the "leaf peeping" colors of fall. Also the "ancient" variation. The green in it allows to reds and yellows to dominate
Last edited by sailortats; 24th February 13 at 01:02 PM.
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24th February 13, 01:33 PM
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 Originally Posted by sailortats
Ken, just so you understand me. It was not the red and yellow colors in your design I was objecting to. It was the green which I feel overpowers the other colors. On my computer, at least, your green appears to be almost black and is definitely the predominant color.
I very much like your "red variant". This I feel more closely represents the "leaf peeping" colors of fall.
I suspect there are a number of factors involved:
Our individual preferences...
The hue, saturation, and gamma of the monitors we each use...
The limited color palettes offered by the design tool...
The fact that ANY color used in the design directly influences the hue of every other color in the tartan, where they overlap...
The general proportion of all the colors (including green), in all the photos I have taken, of the area that inspired the effort...
My desire to produce a tartan suitable for pleating to the stripe (which dictates a band wide enough to allow for the taper, without losing border/guard stripes, etc.)...
Likewise, to avoid the "lawn chair effect" of horizontals, when pleating to the stripe...
Here's something to think about. When we look at a green highway sign that uses white lettering to convey a message, do our eyes focus on the green? Or do they focus on the white to discern the message being conveyed? Why would we not then say that the green overpowers the white?
In this case, you seem concerned with the green sign, while I am focused on the white lettering, despite that the white lettering is such a small percentage overall, of the shades used on the sign.... or stated differently, despite that the green "overpowers" the white. It doesn't, for me. It makes the white message stand out. I do understand what you mean. The difference is in where you and I feel will provide the emphasis for the colors.
Last edited by unixken; 24th February 13 at 01:34 PM.
KEN CORMACK
Clan Buchanan
U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, USA
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