Spenser Jacket and Buttons

[tundramanq]

Since there is interest in the jacket as purchased. I am posing these of the 36R ( my actual chest is 38.5 inches ).
They carry one label:The Robert Wagner Collection by Raffinati the other label is:American Commodore Tuxedo,Cleaveland Ohio.
This explains the size difference. American makers usually make coats and blazers that fit like garbage bags rather than doing the precision tailoring required for a close fit and this was made here. IMHO kilt jackets should be close european fit as to accentuate the loose flowing kilt and not add another loose flapping piece to the picture.
The back:

The Front:

And the side:


I know it's a Utilikilt - it's what I wore today - was working on neighbors car earlier - but the waist position is the same. I did take off my 2.5 inch black belt so the jacket hem is easy to see.

[tundramanq]

I now have pictures. Note I am 5' 10" and chest is 39", This is an American made WWTuxedo Spencer jacket 36XL ( XL - due to how low I wear my kilts - Body lengh is exactly 2 inches longer than a 36R ). As expected, I rehemed the sleeves 1 7/8 inch shorter, (1 inch below the wrist bones) - if you look close, the permanent felt tip marks are still on the backs of my hands about an inch above my knuckles from measureing. After experimenting with button placement using yellow sticky pad squares, I settled on the PC layout and number and marked the spots and sewed the purple filled pewter diamond buttons on in the current positions. As of now the sleeves are bare. The jury is still out on placing a single button on each sleeve in the standard suit jacket positions. Since this isn't a regulation PC, no back buttons or tails, the sleeve buttons showing from the back would balance the "bling" on the front.

The vest is the next project, with more on order that have more "cut away"in front. This 3 button stops at the 2.5 inch belt top in back and is as you see it in front.
Ordered are: 2- 3 button chain points in Dark gray and black and 1 from another brand, a 4 button point and a knit 5 button point. What dosen't get used here will still be used casually - that's my excuse and I am sticking with it......

Windy Day - jacket A-OK. kilt so so. - went back inside. Rocky, FYI that's a 40mph side gust on your Casual:

Front view:

Back - I'm sloching here, when I stand straight the jacket hem aligns with bottom of belt:

Side view:

Then quarter view:

[Tim Little]

Lookin' good!

[MNlad]

Good look. Formal, but not to busy.

[tundramanq]

I bought a few vests to go with the Spenser and solo. Thought I would get second opinions.
First the vests alone:
The 5 button (RVE), I think covering the belt and hanger straps looks cleaner.

The 3 button (SVE), It covers the belt but seems to work best with the bottom button undone.

The 3 button (TLV1), This 3 button vest is shorter and exposes belt and hangers.

The 3 button (JW), The scoop on the 3 button is a bit dramatic, maybe intended for ruffle shirt use. I had to create the cutaway on the bottom.

[tundramanq]

The Spencer jacket with the 5 button vest:

And with the 3 button (JW) vest:


The cutaway on the bottom on these point vests that I have seen here and at the highland retailers seems to vary in the pictures I have seen from none to a squared off flat top cutout. Keeps me guessing

The kilt, Isle of Skye, USAK Casual PV.

[Nile]

Looks really good Chuck! I much prefer the Spencer with the 5 button vest as opposed to the 3 button and that Isle of Skye kilt looks great with all of it.
Nile