Sgian Dhu Ban for Bannockburn 2014

**creagdhubh** · 29th July 13, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Peter Lowe

I read this in the Scottish version of the Times. The Times story says that "the National Trust for Scotland (NTS), which is organising the event, claimed that it was illegal for the traditional dagger to be worn in a public place, despite them having a special exemption under law." I am pleased to note that the "Scotsman's" story is not as incorrect. (Times P16 29 July - sorry dont know how to upload link)

As a member of the NTS I have taken the liberty of writing to them by e-mail. I have expressed concern that their statement is inaccurate. I go on to say that it ill fits an organisation that looks to support Scotland's heritage and that, by implication, they are branding the wearers of national dress as security risks.

I qualify my comments by saying that I would happily support their stance if there is evidence that kilt wearers are involved in a significant amount of knife crime. I have asked if there are statistics on this - if not where is the risk.

I have indicated that the renewal of my subscription rests on their reply.

I will report any reply.

Peter

Well done, Peter!

**Harold Cannon** · 29th July 13, 12:16 PM

I really dont carry one.

A good pocket knife is usually in my sporran but a sgain always seems to slide and makes my hose fall down over time.

I have gotten to the point that I dont even bother with a sgian anymore.

I did have the idea for an internal sheath in the back of my sporran at one point and I may still do that in one of my custom projects for myself.

**mookien** · 29th July 13, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Peter Lowe

... (Times P16 29 July - sorry dont know how to upload link) ... .

Peter

Peter,

Assuming I correctly understand the context of your "problem", you don't have to upload a link. Simply "copy" it from the address bar of your browser and "paste" it into your post, wherever you want it to appear.

John

**mookien** · 29th July 13, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by cessna152towser

... Unless there's a change of heart it looks like our visitors will need to leave their sgian-dhus at home.

I guess that throws cold water on my plans to litter the field with caltrops in order to lend an air of authenticity to the re-enactment.

But, I like flyrod's idea about "sgian brews". We should all buy a few from Rocky and hand them out at the festivities.

**Jock Scot** · 29th July 13, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by mookien

I guess that throws cold water on my plans to litter the field with caltrops in order to lend an air of authenticity to the re-enactment.

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In the car park? That would certainly gum up the works.

**Peter Lowe** · 29th July 13, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by mookien

Peter,

Assuming I correctly understand the context of your "problem", you don't have to upload a link. Simply "copy" it from the address bar of your browser and "paste" it into your post, wherever you want it to appear.

John

Thank you for your suggestion, John. Unfortunately you are dealing with a non subscriber to the Times online and someone who has difficulty copying anything.

Peter

PS Willing to learn!!

**mookien** · 29th July 13, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Peter Lowe

Thank you for your suggestion, John. Unfortunately you are dealing with a non subscriber to the Times online and someone who has difficulty copying anything.

Peter

PS Willing to learn!!

Peter: I tacitly, but perhaps incorrectly, assumed that you were reading the Times online via a web browser.

I, too, am a non subscriber to the Times online. I just chose a more or less random article from the Times - "Gathering of the Clans at Holyrood". I navigated to the article, copied the address at the top of my browser, and now will paste it below. We can see if it is active in this post by clicking on it.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/u...cle2632512.ece

It looks good to me, so far.

John

PS: The link works for me.

**mookien** · 29th July 13, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

In the car park? That would certainly gum up the works.

I hadn't thought about the car park. Good idea. That could act as a replacement, ... or better yet, a supplement.

**BBNC** · 29th July 13, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Harold Cannon

I really dont carry one.

A good pocket knife is usually in my sporran but a sgain always seems to slide and makes my hose fall down over time.

I have gotten to the point that I dont even bother with a sgian anymore.

I did have the idea for an internal sheath in the back of my sporran at one point and I may still do that in one of my custom projects for myself.

What about pocket knives...are they banned in the UK? I carry a moderate Swiss Army at all times and have been for 50 years.

**tpa** · 29th July 13, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by BBNC

What about pocket knives...are they banned in the UK?

The website for the event says any weaponry and sharp objects are banned, so take off your kilt pins and leave at home any pocket or table knives, forks, sharp pens and pencils, hairpins, cap badges and tail combs! However I see no ban on baseball bats, hammers, whips or steel toe capped boots for those intent on creating the expected mayhem outside of the re-enactment.