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    CMcG - best contribution yet! It gives information without getting emotional. Well done.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    CMcG - best contribution yet! It gives information without getting emotional. Well done.
    Thanks! This is definitely a touchy subject from a variety of perspectives... Farmer Jones inadvertently kicked a hornets nest and I wanted to offer a bit of informational salve to all who got stung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    CMcG - best contribution yet! It gives information without getting emotional. Well done.
    Agreed. Well said, Colin! I, for one, apologise if I contributed any bad joo-joo to the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I believe that you wrote "but it is not longer just a Scottish national dress" in an earlier post so I see no malice or misinterpretation in accepting that this is exactly what you meant to say.
    Whether or not you choose to wear a kilt to some ceremonial event in your own country is entirely a matter for you and no-one here is in any way trying to pick a fight or exclude you so please do not be so precious about this. Your assertion that the kilt is no longer just a Scottish national dress is not only incorrect, however, but is also deeply offensive to those of us born and raised in that culture. Many here previously have tried to "pooh-pooh" our claim to the kilt as a national symbol, for whatever reason, mostly I think to justify some spurious reason of theirs to legitimately wear a kilt, so if you receive a strong rebuttal then you will certainly know that you are not being picked upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I believe that you wrote "but it is not longer just a Scottish national dress" in an earlier post so I see no malice or misinterpretation in accepting that this is exactly what you meant to say.
    Whether or not you choose to wear a kilt to some ceremonial event in your own country is entirely a matter for you and no-one here is in any way trying to pick a fight or exclude you so please do not be so precious about this. Your assertion that the kilt is no longer just a Scottish national dress is not only incorrect, however, but is also deeply offensive to those of us born and raised in that culture. Many here previously have tried to "pooh-pooh" our claim to the kilt as a national symbol, for whatever reason, mostly I think to justify some spurious reason of theirs to legitimately wear a kilt, so if you receive a strong rebuttal then you will certainly know that you are not being picked upon.
    I intended to read and learn in this, but you are mistaken Phil. Farmer Jones never said that. The person who said that was theOfficialbren. I understand your concerns however they are misdirected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen View Post
    It is an empty gasoline can from my perspective...
    Even fumes can be tricky!
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper250 View Post
    I intended to read and learn in this, but you are mistaken Phil. Farmer Jones never said that. The person who said that was theOfficialbren. I understand your concerns however they are misdirected.
    No I didn't. Don't put words in my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Jones View Post
    You did momentarily have me questioning something I have seen done for many years, so I phoned the Legion headquarters and asked. You have to remember, this is Canada, not Australia. Your ways may not be our ways. The kilt may have started as a Scottish national dress, and been exported by the diaspora, but it is not longer just a Scottish national dress, as it has been adopted as a method of showing honour in many other places.
    Hopper250.

    Well Farmer Jones certainly said it.
    Last edited by Jock Scot; 8th August 13 at 08:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I believe that you wrote "but it is not longer just a Scottish national dress" in an earlier post so I see no malice or misinterpretation in accepting that this is exactly what you meant to say.
    Whether or not you choose to wear a kilt to some ceremonial event in your own country is entirely a matter for you and no-one here is in any way trying to pick a fight or exclude you so please do not be so precious about this. Your assertion that the kilt is no longer just a Scottish national dress is not only incorrect, however, but is also deeply offensive to those of us born and raised in that culture. Many here previously have tried to "pooh-pooh" our claim to the kilt as a national symbol, for whatever reason, mostly I think to justify some spurious reason of theirs to legitimately wear a kilt, so if you receive a strong rebuttal then you will certainly know that you are not being picked upon.
    Phil... I doubt anyone here would ever suggest that the kilt is not a Scottish symbol. Why people of non-Scottish heritage choose to wear it has always been a mystery to me. But please get over the issue of the kilt being unique to Scotland. That may have been true 2 - 300 years ago, before amongst other things the highland clearances exported Scots to other parts of the world. This forum is living evidence.
    "Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
    well, that comes from poor judgement."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Hopper250.

    Well Farmer Jones certainly said it.
    I stand corrected.

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