The intent that Mountain Hardwear has is for the backpacks hip strap to ride on your hips and the kilts waist band to be just above. Unless you wear low rise jeans this is close to jeans waist. The area from waist band down about 4 inches is a solid (non pleated) piece and is cut to form a conical shape keeping skin digging seams and wrinkles under the pack belt to a minimum.
I can't really answer your natural waist thing as I can't wear anything, kilts or the nasty effeminate zippery things 
at my natural waist.
Maybe someone without my issue has tried the EK up high?
I just realized your arrival should be real soon. I know I don't like a waist band at where I bend on the bike - It digs in.
My bike is a banana seat with the standard half ape hanger handle bar, Schwinn Grey Ghost 5 speed Sting-ray ( the 60s, 70s era Krate series style ). I don't bend over much on it. 
Last edited by tundramanq; 28th August 13 at 04:58 AM.
slàinte mhath, Chuck
Originally Posted by MeghanWalker,In answer to Goodgirlgoneplaids challenge:
"My sporran is bigger and hairier than your sporran"
Pants is only a present tense verb here. I once panted, but it's all cool now.
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