Another Robertson, soon to be kilted

[Calgacus]

They may have sent a picture of Mackenzie for 'illustrative purposes'.

I would think a Robertson kilt pleated to the white stripe would be very heavy and expensive, as I'm sure a lot more material would be required to make it.

[Nathan]

Also when asking for it pleated to the stripe I asked for "military style" pleating... As im sure this is what it is?

If you asked for military style pleating, you're going to end up with a military box pleat rather than a knife pleats to the stripe. Is that what you had in mind?

pleated to stripe.jpg

pleated to stripe2.jpg

[Calgacus]

If you asked for military style pleating, you're going to end up with a military box pleat rather than a knife pleats to the stripe. Is that what you had in mind?

Hi Nathan,

Not necessarily. I've heard pleating to the stripe being referred to as 'military' before, here in Scotland. This comes about from the notion that military kilts were pleated to the stripe whereas civilian kilts were pleated to the sett. I doubt you'd get a box pleated kilt without specifically asking for a box pleated kilt hereabouts.

Either way, it's highly recommended that the OP makes clear to his kiltmaker what he wants. The photo he forwarded should have made it clear.

[TheOfficialBren]

I have also heard the term "Regimental Pleating" when applied to pleating to the stripe.

Pleating Robertson Hunting to the white stripe will certainly take up twice as much cloth. It's a large sett generally. It's possible, as Barb showed us in the thread re posted by Cousin Steve, but will give VERY deep pleats, about 6 inches deep. To the red stripe is about a 3 inches deep.

YMMV.

Great thread. One of my absolute favourite tartans, though I am admittedly bias.

[albagubrath89]

Capture.JPG
This is the Picture I was sent back I actually think this looks quite nice, so now im stuck... Ive only ever seen the ancient hunting to the stripe... any pictures of yours Bren?

Also will having deeper pleats have a negative impact on the kilt?

[RockyR]

Capture.JPG
This is the Picture I was sent back I actually think this looks quite nice, so now im stuck... Ive only ever seen the ancient hunting to the stripe... any pictures of yours Bren?

Also will having deeper pleats have a negative impact on the kilt?

THAT picture is of the MacKenzie Modern tartan. Where it has a white stripe in every green section and a red stripe every OTHER Navy section, the Robertson Hunting is the opposite. Please make sure the kiltmaker is using ROBERTSON Hunting, NOT MacKenzie.

Example (notice which color is in the GREEN section and which color is in the NAVY section):

Robertson:



MacKenzie:


Frankly, if the kiltmaker can't tell the difference between the 2, I'd suggest keeping an open mind to a different kilt company.

[albagubrath89]

all correspondences have been through sales people, and it wasn't the kiltmaker who sourced the picture.

[albagubrath89]

And the message was an example of a kilt pleated to the white stripe

[thescot]

I think Rocky may be making the most sense. Even I knew it was a MacKenzie, not a Robertson. (Being a Donnachaidh myself and having worn a Robertson Hunting for close to 20 years, AND having several close friends who are MacKenzies, I've come to be a pretty quick teller-of-the-difference.)

I would give serious thought to at least talking to another kilt maker.

Finally, all that material on a Robertson if kilted to the white stripe would almost certainly make for a heavy and likely even uncomfortable kilt.

[RockyR]

The alternative: Since the red stripe occurs twice for every 1 white stripe in Robertson, you could do this...

Instead of pleating to the red stripe, you could pleat to alternating white / navy blue section / white / navy blue section / white / navy blue section / etc. It would keep the pleats at .9" wide or so and the white stripe would be on every other pleat.

Just my $.02