Ruins

[jhockin]

It must be brought to attention that the Reformation in Scotland followed a different path and occurred a few years later than the English Reformation. While the English Reformation certainly influenced the Scottish Reformation, Henry VIII was not responsible for the catholic church ruins in Scotland unless a church had been destroyed during the Rough Wooing of 1544-45.

Correct me, someone, if I'm wrong, but my impression from my (limited) reading about the reformation, in Scotland, was that many of the Catholic Churches was deliberately destroyed by the Scottish followers of John Knox?
(Aside: are Catholics still regarded as 'somewhat suspect' , by most Scots?)

[Jock Scot]

Rules! Remember the rules!

The short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is, it depends on who you ask and what part of Scotland they come from.

[Pleater]

If you can ever access the TV program Time Team over and over they discover 'robbed out walls' - literally the shadow of where a wall once stood and the trench dug to reclaim the dressed stonework. The core of the wall - less desirable, is often evident and also all the mortar and any plaster is scattered around. The useful stones would have been carried away.

During our Civil was it was not unusual for the troops to use a church for a stronghold and to strip it of all the lead from the roof and also the coffins in the vaults to convert it into ammunition - so the occupants of a large house in the area could have insult added to injury by being peppered with balls made from lead they had paid for, and if they survived and retained their status would have to make good again in the future.

Anne the Pleater :ootd:

[John_Carrick]

In England and Ireland the traditional Roman Catholic Parish Churches, as distinct from the monasteries, were typically absorbed into the Anglican Church at the time of the Reformation. RC churches in the UK tend to be more modern, often dating from the time of Catholic Emancipation in the 19th century and onwards from there. This is a quick précis of a complex history.

[Ron Abbott]

Rules! Remember the rules!

The short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is, it depends on who you ask and what part of Scotland they come from.

Very much so....surprised this thread is still going.
Read in a book the other day that Queen Victoria did not like (presumably Anglican) bishops very much but there was one that she quite liked. When talking to John Brown she said that this particular bishop when he dies should quickly get to heaven. Brown replied, "just wait until he meets John Knox".

[Andrews Son]

Coventry Cathedral is a beautiful church it has been left in ruins to be symbolic, but it was the community they rebuilt after the blitz. Just type in Coventry Cathedral old and see the pictures. What happened was when the fire in the church was out, they entered through the doors right in front of them was a cross made from the ceiling joists. They preserved the cross and a replica is on show whilst the original is underground in the new modernist cathedral.

On a personal note i had my confirmation done in the old cathedral at daybreak under candle light on Easter Sunday it was an amazing experience.

[jhockin]

Rules! Remember the rules!

The short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is, it depends on who you ask and what part of Scotland they come from.

Sorry, no intention of rule breaking! ( but, I must note, your warning and your signature quote go together especially well ;0)
And, just to clarify, Jock Scot, was your answer related to the first question, second, or both?

[Jock Scot]

Oh purely the second question! The other part is not a strong point for me, I am afraid.

[Mike_Oettle]

While I won’t go into the theological side of the question, it should perhaps be mentioned that the Roman Catholic Church is still quite strongly supported in Scotland. Someone who lives there will have to say how many old churches it has (probably very few, mostly I would guess in the islands). Its main support base would seem to be in the islands and in Glasgow.
The Church of Scotland (also termed the Kirk) has gone through a number of schisms and reconciliations, each of which will have affected congregations and the buildings they used.
And there is also the Episcopal Church, which has a much smaller support base than either of the other two. An old priest who was once my rector told me that, growing up in Scotland, he was constantly taunted by both Presbyterians and Catholics over petty matters of doctrine.
There are other denominations besides. I have been reading about Dr John Philip, who was supervisor of the London Missionary Society missions in South Africa in the first half of the 19th century. He was brought up in the Kirk, but joined a Scottish Congregational church, and trained as a Congregationalist minister. It was as a Congregationalist that he was appointed by the LMS.
When I was a boy in Cape Town my family belonged to a Congregational church. In the entrance of the church was the gravestone of Dr J T van der Kemp (recovered from the cemetery he was buried in when it was closed). He was a Dutchman who had led the LMS organisation at the Cape before Philip’s time. He had a Scottish connection because he attained his doctorate in medicine at Edinburgh University.
Regards,
Mike