Wrapping the Braveheart kilt

[Calgacus]

An image with the two layers shaded. BLUE is the outer layer, RED is the under layer.

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[figheadair]

I understand the argument but am not convinced. The same visual 'effect' can be achieved simply by folding one side of the upper portion back towards the opposite shoulder: the cloth is then effectively doubled on the fastening side but single if undone and worn as a cloak.





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[Calgacus]

I understand the argument but am not convinced. The same visual 'effect' can be achieved simply by folding one side of the upper portion back towards the opposite shoulder: the cloth is then effectively doubled on the fastening side but single if undone and worn as a cloak.

I see what you are saying and can visualise it. I can understand how that could account for the arrangement at the figure's left shoulder (right of image), but I do not see how it can account for the fold at the figure's right hip (left of image).

[figheadair]

I see what you are saying and can visualise it. I can understand how that could account for the arrangement at the figure's left shoulder (right of image), but I do not see how it can account for the fold at the figure's right hip (left of image).

The arranging of the upper portion of the plaid can result in that effect as here and for me this is a reasonable explanation for the fold in Waitt's portrait.

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[Calgacus]

The arranging of the upper portion of the plaid can result in that effect as here and for me this is a reasonable explanation for the fold in Waitt's portrait.

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It results in that general arrangements of folds for sure (I have worn a belted plaid in just that manner myself), but it does not, and as far as I can see, cannot account for the double edge as highlighted at the figure's right hip. Folds, yes, sure. The double edge, no.

I can see I'm going to have to buy some dust sheets...

[figheadair]

Imagine the upper portion of the plaid hanging down prior to being arranged; then take one corner and take it behind to the opposite shoulder and it will fold back on itself creating a double edge.

[The Wizard of BC]

If we go back to the original posters original question.

Kilts made for the stage and screen often use what we in the kilt world call "the false plaid". It is actually made from two different pieces of cloth.

Here is just one example of a false plaid.
On the bottom is a normal kilt.
Then there is a second piece shaped like a triangle with a separate waistband.
This second piece is fastened around the waist and the end brought up to the shoulder and fastened with a pin.



This is a very cost effective way to give the look of an older kilt. You only need a regular kilt and another piece of additional fabric, something for a waistband and some velcro.

[creagdhubh]

Very intriguing discussion!

[jhockin]

If we go back to the original posters original question.

Kilts made for the stage and screen often use what we in the kilt world call "the false plaid". It is actually made from two different pieces of cloth.

Here is just one example of a false plaid.
On the bottom is a normal kilt.
Then there is a second piece shaped like a triangle with a separate waistband.
This second piece is fastened around the waist and the end brought up to the shoulder and fastened with a pin.



This is a very cost effective way to give the look of an older kilt. You only need a regular kilt and another piece of additional fabric, something for a waistband and some velcro.

Steve: could please also post a photo of the front view ( I think you had one)?

[Steve Ashton]

If you remember this outfit was put together to show off the Tartan I designed for my adopted city.

I was not trying to create a 'braveheart' look. I just wanted to show off as much of the Tartan as I could in a parade.

Not the best lighting but here it is.



And a side shot. I was chatting with this gentleman before the parade started.



I think I still have the upper portion of this outfit somewhere. If not I have a similar one we did in Black Watch for a school program. I could lay it out on the floor and photograph it if you wish so you can see how its made.