You and I, Steve at least agree on the respect for others aspect.

The point that I was and am making is that you are wrong in stating THCD has rules. Some, I grant you, have mistakenly and frustratingly tended to interpret and use the old THCD definitions as having "rules". The point I am making is that after considerable thought and effort the NEW THCD definition, emphasises choice, not, as you were saying, "rules".

Its 2300 Hrs here and I am going to bed.