Thanks for that info Rocky. May eventually do that. Crests on the legs would certainly fit well with kilts.

Biggest barrier for me is that the Macdonald crest has a cross in it....and I'm not Christian.

I'm devoutly Pagan, because for all the years and years of being in Christian churches all my "burning bush" spiritual experiences, close connections with God, have occured in or near sweatlodge amid flurry's of Native prayers.

There is a Macdonald of the Isles crest I've seen that is more boats and birds...looking for that, don't think it has the cross.

Easy brothers, I've nothing against Christians, I just ain't one.

Ron