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    Alan, in US-speak muslin is just about any un-dyed cotton plain weave fabric regardless of weight.

    "Once you can accept the universe as matter expanding into nothing that is something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truitt View Post
    Alan, in US-speak muslin is just about any un-dyed cotton plain weave fabric regardless of weight.
    Thank you, Truitt.
    In the UK, muslin is very thin and is generally used to filter off liquid e.g. in cheese or jelly making. I think what you describe we might call "calico". (Some ladies will now correct me on this!)
    Alan
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    Quote Originally Posted by neloon View Post
    Thank you, Truitt.
    In the UK, muslin is very thin and is generally used to filter off liquid e.g. in cheese or jelly making. I think what you describe we might call "calico". (Some ladies will now correct me on this!)
    Alan
    There we go Alan, I always thought it was a mistake letting those colonials swan off on their own. Just look at the mess they have made of our language!

    Joking apart, I do wonder on occasion, as no doubt those from outwith these shores do too from time to time, how much unintentional damage to international relations these differences of interpretation cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    There we go Alan, I always thought it was a mistake letting those colonials swan off on their own. Just look at the mess they have made of our language!

    Joking apart, I do wonder on occasion, as no doubt those from outwith these shores do too from time to time, how much unintentional damage to international relations these differences of interpretation cause.
    I do say,ole chum. some of us colonials down here in the antipodes are still fully conversant with th mother tongue, in fact, we have one of your royal chaps down here at the moment just finishing off his miitary career. Cheers.
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    I do have some experience of Antipodean English after spending some six wonderful months in Western Australia and I did detect certain and quite distinct adaptations to the mother tongue!
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    Quote Originally Posted by neloon View Post
    In the UK, muslin is very thin and is generally used to filter off liquid e.g. in cheese or jelly making. I think what you describe we might call "calico".
    Interesting. In the US "calico" is a simple cotton fabric, but with an all-over print. And what we use for straining in the kitchen we call cheesecloth.

    That sometimes know-it-all Wikipedia says:

    In the UK, Australia and New Zealand:

    Calico—simple, cheap equal weft and warp plain weave fabric in white, cream or unbleached cotton.
    Muslin—a very fine, light plain weave cotton fabric.
    Muslin gauze—muslin.
    Gauze—extremely soft and fine cotton fabric with a very open plain weave.
    Cheesecloth—gauze.


    In the US:

    Calico—cotton fabric with a small, all-over floral print
    Muslin—simple, cheap equal weft and warp plain weave fabric in white, cream or unbleached cotton and/or a very fine, light plain weave cotton fabric (sometimes called muslin gauze).
    Muslin gauze—the very lightest, most open weave of muslin.
    Gauze—any very light fabric, generally with a plain weave
    Cheesecloth—extremely soft and fine cotton fabric with a very open plain weave.

    Printed calico was imported into the United States from Lancashire in the 1780s, and here a linguistic separation occurred, while Europe maintained the word calico for the fabric, in the States it was used to refer to the printed design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt View Post
    I do say,ole chum. some of us colonials down here in the antipodes are still fully coversant with th mother tongue, in fact, we have one of your royal chaps down here at themoment just finishing off his miitary career. Cheers.
    Aye, that would be the red haired chap. it made the National news in Canada.
    In Canada, we are of the opinion, that we speak and use perfect English, all the rest of you have some form of an accent.
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    well, that comes from poor judgement."
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    I think there might be a business opportunity for cotton underwear printed in tartan, as opposed to a solid color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    I'd never heard of them until I started collecting vintage catalogues.

    Kilt Drawers are discussed in some detail in the Anderson 1936 catalogue, here

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...talogue-74888/

    Both the Day Dress and Evening Dress sections mention them. Here's the Evening Dress page

    My first kilt, made in 1955, came with the tartan variety drawers, which were exceedingly uncomfortable. Not only was I mildy allergic to wool, but there was no give in them so movement was severely constrained. Some kilts were supplied with the elastic waisted green variety, but I believe these were normally sourced from the girls department.
    If you are going to do it, do it in a kilt!

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