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17th October 15, 03:56 PM
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Most references and accounts that I have heard of anything approaching a battle cry that could be tied to the Scots in battle have described it as more of a viking like throaty yell and scream, rather than a high pitched whoop like the rebel yell. The later also tended to swell in volume and pitch as it was being executed, like the Southern Cicada, an inspiration it doubtless also derived from.
As I have mentioned, personal memoirs of participants, as well as other first person accounts of the rebel yell in period and post war writings have stated that it was largely sourced from, and sounded like, a Native American war whoop.
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18th October 15, 02:18 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Mike S
Most references and accounts that I have heard of anything approaching a battle cry that could be tied to the Scots in battle have described it as more of a viking like throaty yell and scream, rather than a high pitched whoop like the rebel yell. The later also tended to swell in volume and pitch as it was being executed, like the Southern Cicada, an inspiration it doubtless also derived from.
As I have mentioned, personal memoirs of participants, as well as other first person accounts of the rebel yell in period and post war writings have stated that it was largely sourced from, and sounded like, a Native American war whoop.
Thank you Mike S, I stand corrected Sir, but I came to the right place to get the definitive answer from you and the other replies, thank you all for your time and expertise. Kit
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19th October 15, 07:02 AM
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As a child in Yorkshire I heard the local lads charging into battle against those from 'Bank End' - uttering their war cry which in later life, when reading Gaius Julius Caesar I thought could be a remnant of the high pitched yelping warcry of the Icenii.
It is not impossible that the practise was passed along down the years, as younger boys grew big enough to join and older ones were sent off to work, the local gang remained, and in the long days of the summer holidays from school practised warcraft on the gang from the next village or housing estate. It could well have travelled across oceans.
It is surprising what it can do - at one time when in considerable danger from a man I threw caution to the wind and with a yell of iiy yii yii I knocked the beggar down and kicked him several times before running away. At that moment it was not something I had thought of for ten years, it had obviously been waiting for when it might be needed.
Maybe my tendency to wear blue is more than personal preference, and my temper, when I really do lose it, is worthy of any berserker. I'm quite handy with an axe too.
Anne the Pleater :ootd:
I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
-- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.
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19th October 15, 07:16 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Pleater
As a child in Yorkshire I heard the local lads charging into battle against those from 'Bank End' - uttering their war cry which in later life, when reading Gaius Julius Caesar I thought could be a remnant of the high pitched yelping warcry of the Icenii.
It is not impossible that the practise was passed along down the years, as younger boys grew big enough to join and older ones were sent off to work, the local gang remained, and in the long days of the summer holidays from school practised warcraft on the gang from the next village or housing estate. It could well have travelled across oceans.
It is surprising what it can do - at one time when in considerable danger from a man I threw caution to the wind and with a yell of iiy yii yii I knocked the beggar down and kicked him several times before running away. At that moment it was not something I had thought of for ten years, it had obviously been waiting for when it might be needed.
Maybe my tendency to wear blue is more than personal preference, and my temper, when I really do lose it, is worthy of any berserker. I'm quite handy with an axe too.
Anne the Pleater :ootd:
Good for you!!!!, and thank you for your interesting reply, I know all about the female temper my late Mother who I miss dearly had a very quick temper but soon cooled down and was hugging me for my misdemeanor, my wife is exactly the same with the children, she says its her Irish side, her mother being Irish and father being Welsh. Kit
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19th October 15, 01:14 PM
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This is the only Scottish connection I can find to the Rebel Yell:
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19th October 15, 01:41 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Lake Mist
This is the only Scottish connection I can find to the Rebel Yell:
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I wasn't even aware that Rebel Yell Whiskey had a Scottish connection.
Mark Anthony Henderson
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19th October 15, 05:05 PM
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I may be wrong on this ... but did do a tad bit of research ...
The Scots brought their whisky brewing techniques to North America during their migrations ...
Now ... Scotch ... is distilled in Scotland ... if it is distilled anywhere else, it is just whiskey ...
You can find many whiskies in the south from Kentucky to Florida that all have their roots in Scotland ... but alas ... they are not Scotch, they are uniquely American whiskies ...
Alas ... I do not distill, so I am not an expert ... I do brew ales and make wines ...
This may be a discussion for a different area ... say brewing and pubs?
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19th October 15, 05:43 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Lake Mist
I may be wrong on this ... but did do a tad bit of research ...
The Scots brought their whisky brewing techniques to North America during their migrations ...
Now ... Scotch ... is distilled in Scotland ... if it is distilled anywhere else, it is just whiskey ...
You can find many whiskies in the south from Kentucky to Florida that all have their roots in Scotland ... but alas ... they are not Scotch, they are uniquely American whiskies ...
Alas ... I do not distill, so I am not an expert ... I do brew ales and make wines ...
This may be a discussion for a different area ... say brewing and pubs?
Makes sense to me. Slàinte mhath!
Mark Anthony Henderson
Virtus et Victoria - Virtue and Victory
"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." - Douglas Adams
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22nd October 15, 01:07 PM
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I looked at the whiskey, then I looked at it again.
Whiskey in a brandy glass?
Whiskey not out of the bottle it is standing next to too - if I am any judge.
I probably worry too much.
Anne the Pleater :ootd:
I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
-- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.
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22nd October 15, 08:26 PM
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Americans, we'll drink out of any glass that's handy ... or sometimes not ...
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