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16th January 16, 02:37 PM
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Black and White Puddings
Does anyone have a source, mail order preferred, in the States for black and white puddings? Any thoughts on your favourite brand would be welcomed as well. Mrs Standard and I recently returned from a trip to Ireland, and would like to fix a full Irish breakfast for our family, we could substitute thick slab American bacon for the Irish bacon, but I'm having trouble finding puddings around here.
We do get up to Chicago, or down to St. Louis occasionally, but mail order would be more convenient.
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16th January 16, 04:00 PM
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Amazon has both black and white puddings available, I haven't checked Tommy Moloneys but they have lots of Irish sausages and whatnot. As for Irish bacon substitute, it's back bacon not belly bacon so Canadian bacon may be an easy choice, that or pancetta. Hope I helped some!
As for favorite brands, my local butcher make it on request for me.
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17th January 16, 12:22 AM
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I must admit I'd never heard of an Irish breakfast until I saw it here, so I looked it up. The only difference I can find from a full " English breakfast" or full "Scottish" is the addition of "potato bread /farl " or the lack of some fried haggis.
My father's side of the family has some Scots Irish ancestry which could explain why we've had farl in our breakfasts ( though it's 40 years ago) must try making some farl myself...
The computer automatically came up with my nearest places to buy ingredients for farl.. Walmart, Cincinnati. ????? That's a bit far from Norfolk UK...
Good luck on the great puddin' hunt.
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17th January 16, 07:05 AM
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 Originally Posted by GrainReaper
Amazon has both black and white puddings available, I haven't checked Tommy Moloneys but they have lots of Irish sausages and whatnot. As for Irish bacon substitute, it's back bacon not belly bacon so Canadian bacon may be an easy choice, that or pancetta. Hope I helped some!
As for favorite brands, my local butcher make it on request for me.
Yes, thick slab bacon is not a true substitute for the Irish back bacon, but Canadian bacon doesn't seem to quite fit the bill either in my opinion. The bacon we had in Ireland, and that which I remember from my time in England 30 years ago, would be much more like a thin slice of fried cured ham rather than Canadian bacon.
I wish we were so lucky here in downstate Illinois to have a butcher make the puddings for us!
I did finally find this internet vendor: http://www.foodireland.com/recipes/c...white-pudding/
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17th January 16, 07:14 AM
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 Originally Posted by The Q
I must admit I'd never heard of an Irish breakfast until I saw it here, so I looked it up. The only difference I can find from a full " English breakfast" or full "Scottish" is the addition of "potato bread /farl " or the lack of some fried haggis.
My father's side of the family has some Scots Irish ancestry which could explain why we've had farl in our breakfasts ( though it's 40 years ago) must try making some farl myself...
The computer automatically came up with my nearest places to buy ingredients for farl.. Walmart, Cincinnati. ????? That's a bit far from Norfolk UK...
Good luck on the great puddin' hunt.
Yes, the Full Irish and the Full Scottish are very similar. I remember beans in England, but never once had beans included in Ireland. Typically in Ireland we would receive a couple of eggs, bacon, a couple of sausages, fried black pudding, fried white pudding, fried tomato, and scones, with the sometimes addition of toast, fried mushrooms, or fried potato bread. And of course always tea or coffee. Oddly enough it never included potatoes which struck me as interesting considering it was Ireland after all.
Is farl similar to Bannock bread? And yes, Cincinnati does seem like an odd choice to be the closest supplier to you!
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17th January 16, 07:31 AM
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You could use ham steak as a substitute, but how about the pancetta? That is easily attainable most anywhere and recalling back to my trip to Ireland is quite similar to the pancetta I get at my local Italian shop
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17th January 16, 07:37 AM
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 Originally Posted by GrainReaper
You could use ham steak as a substitute, but how about the pancetta? That is easily attainable most anywhere and recalling back to my trip to Ireland is quite similar to the pancetta I get at my local Italian shop
Hadn't thought along the lines of pancetta, but it's worth a trial run to test it out.
My daughter did get a Full Irish a few weeks ago when she went up to Chicago to visit a good family friend.
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17th January 16, 08:42 AM
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I'm not sure of the difference between an Ulster fry and Irish fry. We were brought up with an Ulster fry which is sausage, bacon, egg, mushroom, plum tomatoes, we put beans in not sure if they do, soda bread, potato bread and toast. Beautiful
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17th January 16, 08:56 AM
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 Originally Posted by Standard
Hadn't thought along the lines of pancetta, but it's worth a trial run to test it out.
Here is one of the best Scottish breakfasts I had, out of several great ones.
This is from The Water of Leith cafe in Edinburgh.

Clockwise from the beans at the top, a sausage and you can see the bacon right under peeking out. Pancetta seems too thin to me, but procuitto might be closer. IMO, "Canadian bacon" (as available in California) or a thin cut piece of ham would be closest. Toast and tomato next. Potato scone, then black pudding and haggis with a roasted mushroom at top-left of the beans. A fried egg in the center. Scottish breakfast tea and brown sauce accompanied.
Potato scones really are wonderful with breakfast. I hear they are easy to make, so will be trying that.
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17th January 16, 09:05 AM
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All these messages about breakfast and now I can't get 'bubble and squeak' out of my thoughts, fried mashed potato and chopped green veges left over from dinner mixed and fried in a heavy frying pan - or there is the up market version where grated raw potato, chopped onion and any green vegetables are mixed together and baked for half an hour, then strips of bacon are placed over the top and it is baked again until the bacon is crisp along the edges.
These days just the amount of salt would have the medical profession in a flap.
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