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12th April 16, 04:04 PM
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Rosettes
I came across a discussion from some time back about kilt rosettes. I was a member of a Canadian Primary reserve highland infantry unit. Our tartan is the McGregor modern and the M.W.O's wear two triple rosettes of the McGregor tartan where as the C.W.O. and officers wear plane silk black triple rosettes. The history of which was never taught to us or I am so old that I have forgotten.
But during the discussion between the many members, one member continually asked about the history of regiments wearing the rosette in place of a kilt pin, but the question was continually ignored. I was wondering if the discussion could be picked up again and the question of the history of the rosette in place of a kilt pin possibly be answered.
Thank-you
Arnold
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12th April 16, 06:57 PM
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M.W.O's C.W.O - Napi punika?
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
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12th April 16, 08:26 PM
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Rosettes
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt
M.W.O's C.W.O - Napi punika?
MWO -- Master Warrant Officer
CWO -- Chief Warrant Officer
Karena
"All the great things are simple and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honour, duty, mercy, hope." Winston Churchill
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12th April 16, 08:57 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Ordway
MWO -- Master Warrant Officer
CWO -- Chief Warrant Officer
Karena
Suksuma Ordway
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
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12th April 16, 09:14 PM
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Rosettes
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt
Suksuma Ordway
Sama-sama Downunder Kilt.
"All the great things are simple and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honour, duty, mercy, hope." Winston Churchill
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12th April 16, 10:34 PM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Arnold
I came across a discussion from some time back about kilt rosettes. I was a member of a Canadian Primary reserve highland infantry unit. Our tartan is the McGregor modern and the M.W.O's wear two triple rosettes of the McGregor tartan where as the C.W.O. and officers wear plane silk black triple rosettes. The history of which was never taught to us or I am so old that I have forgotten.
But during the discussion between the many members, one member continually asked about the history of regiments wearing the rosette in place of a kilt pin, but the question was continually ignored. I was wondering if the discussion could be picked up again and the question of the history of the rosette in place of a kilt pin possibly be answered.
Thank-you
Arnold
Several surviving early 19th century military, and some civilian, kilts have apron ties which are almost certainly the source of the use of rosettes on kilts. Rosettes are therefore a styalised reference to the original ties. A 92nd kilt made c1815 has three ties running roughly top, middle and bottom; the top one was probably the method of fastening at the waist.
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18th April 16, 06:38 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Arnold
I came across a discussion from some time back about kilt rosettes. I was a member of a Canadian Primary reserve highland infantry unit. Our tartan is the McGregor modern and the M.W.O's wear two triple rosettes of the McGregor tartan where as the C.W.O. and officers wear plane silk black triple rosettes. The history of which was never taught to us or I am so old that I have forgotten.
But during the discussion between the many members, one member continually asked about the history of regiments wearing the rosette in place of a kilt pin, but the question was continually ignored. I was wondering if the discussion could be picked up again and the question of the history of the rosette in place of a kilt pin possibly be answered.
Thank-you
Arnold
The rosettes worn by the BW , now RRS relate to the time when kilts had been made to a shorter length so there was little / no overlap. Green ribbon was used to tie the front to the back, there wasn't enough overlap to use a pin
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18th April 16, 11:59 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Nervous Jock
The rosettes worn by the BW , now RRS relate to the time when kilts had been made to a shorter length so there was little / no overlap. Green ribbon was used to tie the front to the back, there wasn't enough overlap to use a pin
That's an idea not borne out by early surviving military kilts.
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19th April 16, 08:52 PM
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History still not answered
thank you for bringing this back. I am still interested.
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