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    I came across a discussion from some time back about kilt rosettes. I was a member of a Canadian Primary reserve highland infantry unit. Our tartan is the McGregor modern and the M.W.O's wear two triple rosettes of the McGregor tartan where as the C.W.O. and officers wear plane silk black triple rosettes. The history of which was never taught to us or I am so old that I have forgotten.
    But during the discussion between the many members, one member continually asked about the history of regiments wearing the rosette in place of a kilt pin, but the question was continually ignored. I was wondering if the discussion could be picked up again and the question of the history of the rosette in place of a kilt pin possibly be answered.

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    M.W.O's C.W.O - Napi punika?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt View Post
    M.W.O's C.W.O - Napi punika?
    MWO -- Master Warrant Officer

    CWO -- Chief Warrant Officer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordway View Post
    MWO -- Master Warrant Officer

    CWO -- Chief Warrant Officer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downunder Kilt View Post
    Suksuma Ordway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold View Post
    I came across a discussion from some time back about kilt rosettes. I was a member of a Canadian Primary reserve highland infantry unit. Our tartan is the McGregor modern and the M.W.O's wear two triple rosettes of the McGregor tartan where as the C.W.O. and officers wear plane silk black triple rosettes. The history of which was never taught to us or I am so old that I have forgotten.
    But during the discussion between the many members, one member continually asked about the history of regiments wearing the rosette in place of a kilt pin, but the question was continually ignored. I was wondering if the discussion could be picked up again and the question of the history of the rosette in place of a kilt pin possibly be answered.

    Thank-you
    Arnold
    Several surviving early 19th century military, and some civilian, kilts have apron ties which are almost certainly the source of the use of rosettes on kilts. Rosettes are therefore a styalised reference to the original ties. A 92nd kilt made c1815 has three ties running roughly top, middle and bottom; the top one was probably the method of fastening at the waist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold View Post
    I came across a discussion from some time back about kilt rosettes. I was a member of a Canadian Primary reserve highland infantry unit. Our tartan is the McGregor modern and the M.W.O's wear two triple rosettes of the McGregor tartan where as the C.W.O. and officers wear plane silk black triple rosettes. The history of which was never taught to us or I am so old that I have forgotten.
    But during the discussion between the many members, one member continually asked about the history of regiments wearing the rosette in place of a kilt pin, but the question was continually ignored. I was wondering if the discussion could be picked up again and the question of the history of the rosette in place of a kilt pin possibly be answered.

    Thank-you
    Arnold
    The rosettes worn by the BW , now RRS relate to the time when kilts had been made to a shorter length so there was little / no overlap. Green ribbon was used to tie the front to the back, there wasn't enough overlap to use a pin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nervous Jock View Post
    The rosettes worn by the BW , now RRS relate to the time when kilts had been made to a shorter length so there was little / no overlap. Green ribbon was used to tie the front to the back, there wasn't enough overlap to use a pin
    That's an idea not borne out by early surviving military kilts.

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    History still not answered

    thank you for bringing this back. I am still interested.

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