US ARMY tartan redesign?

[Taffy Jack]

I agree with many that it would be folly to change the tartan now. It's not my favorite tartan to wear, but I wear it with pride when I do.

I suppose it isn't all that and a biscuit, but as it's literally the only woolen tartan to which I've any personal connection, I'm grateful for the option.

Besides, I've always been partial to green.

[Benning Boy]

I'm very late coming to this thread. I just realized I hadn't checked in on Xmarks in a while. Time flies.

A couple of years ago we discussed a dress US Army tartan. Steve rolled out his suggested design. I like it. Of course I'd want an Infantry stripe in mine. I've pushed the dress tartan project back a while and hadn't really gone to work on it as planned. I did go to Marlow White, the uniform makers and got samples of the blue uniform fabrics and gold braid with the infantry stripe.

My thought is to accept Steve's design as one option, and to then solicit other designs from recognized designers. For example, Marton Mills' designer did a great job on my Dalrymple tartan. So I thought I'd send her fabric samples and ask for an original design (s.) I'd do the same elsewhere. It would entail some cost, but I could bear it. With a few designs in hand they would be submitted here for a vote of sorts, just as was done with the wildcat tartan. Then the design could be registered etc.

I'd prefer to have the new tartan woven in P/V, as I can see some Snuffies out drinking while kilted , or troops serving in some hell hole putting on the kilt while blowing off steam. They'd be apt to soil their kilts and not have access to dry cleaning services. Of course, we of a gentlemanly nature would be as well served with P/V as wool.

The new tartan could be touted through various publications. I think once word got out the yards might move well, especially if buyers could be directed to some of the kilt makers who advertise here. Hell, that abomination now known as US Army tartan seems to sell well.

Early on I had thought of dispensing with branch colors altogether. I thought perhaps a bit of buff in the design might do. Buff being the color of uniform facings in the Army's early years. Later, buff became the color of general officers, but today buff is the color of the Quartermaster Corp. What to do?

Then there's the issue of how to incorporate the engineers' white and scarlet two toned colors, or the military police green and gold. Things start to get complicated.

Since the entire Army revolves around the Infantry, all other arms and services exist to get the Infantry on the objective, this Infantryman is willing to take the point on establishing a new US Army dress tartan with the support of the less glorious rabble.

What are your thoughts?

[Tarheel]

I like Benning Boy's comment about Infantry, "ground pounders", for those not lucky enough to have one beat you into the dirt in a training exercise. The bulk membership of a branch of service should be considered the main influence for a kilt color scheme. The Army tartan I have is based on such an idea (just a certain period on time and specific theater of service).

[Benning Boy]

Here's another discussion of the US Army Tartan.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-tartan-83438/

An older thread about US Army tartan I link to here because I'm digging the Second Infantry Division insignia. It's tattooed on my right shoulder.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...sporran-26633/

We had a more recent discussion, but I'm unable to locate it now.

Remember Soldiers, even though you may not be actively serving you remain a Soldier for Life.

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Support our advance. Let's do something we can be proud of whether you served at the jaws of the dog or at the tip of the tail, like Graves Registration.

[Stoff]

Here's another discussion of the US Army Tartan.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-tartan-83438/

An older thread about US Army tartan I link to here because I'm digging the Second Infantry Division insignia. It's tattooed on my right shoulder.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...sporran-26633/

We had a more recent discussion, but I'm unable to locate it now.

Remember Soldiers, even though you may not be actively serving you remain a Soldier for Life.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...7/rXykRO2v.png

Support our advance. Let's do something we can be proud of whether you served at the jaws of the dog or at the tip of the tail, like Graves Registration.

Same with sailors. Once a sailor always a sailor. My oath last for life.

[Taffy Jack]

My thought is to accept Steve's design as one option, and to then solicit other designs from recognized designers. For example, Marton Mills' designer did a great job on my Dalrymple tartan. So I thought I'd send her fabric samples and ask for an original design (s.) I'd do the same elsewhere. It would entail some cost, but I could bear it. With a few designs in hand they would be submitted here for a vote of sorts, just as was done with the wildcat tartan. Then the design could be registered etc.

The new tartan could be touted through various publications. I think once word got out the yards might move well, especially if buyers could be directed to some of the kilt makers who advertise here. Hell, that abomination now known as US Army tartan seems to sell well.

Early on I had thought of dispensing with branch colors altogether. I thought perhaps a bit of buff in the design might do. Buff being the color of uniform facings in the Army's early years. Later, buff became the color of general officers, but today buff is the color of the Quartermaster Corp. What to do?

Then there's the issue of how to incorporate the engineers' white and scarlet two toned colors, or the military police green and gold. Things start to get complicated.

Since the entire Army revolves around the Infantry, all other arms and services exist to get the Infantry on the objective, this Infantryman is willing to take the point on establishing a new US Army dress tartan with the support of the less glorious rabble.

What are your thoughts?

"Complicated," indeed. Dark blue for JAG and AG as well as Infantry blue; scarlet for at least three branches (if ADA is still a branch...?); Finance has the money shots (silver and gold); cav and tankers want their yeller; chem guys have ANOTHER blue; these days there's CA (purple/white) and Cyber (Xerox colors?); PAO is a FOURTH blue; and the list goes on from there with Veterinary, Nursing, Transpo, SF...

Even this (certainly much) less glorious Rabbler would represent bottle green, silver-grey, infantry blue, and scarlet. Basically a bad Christmas wrapping paper.

I'm very late coming to this thread. I just realized I hadn't checked in on Xmarks in a while. Time flies.

I'd prefer to have the new tartan woven in P/V, as I can see some Snuffies out drinking while kilted , or troops serving in some hell hole putting on the kilt while blowing off steam. They'd be apt to soil their kilts and not have access to dry cleaning services. Of course, we of a gentlemanly nature would be as well served with P/V as wool.

The new tartan could be touted through various publications. I think once word got out the yards might move well, especially if buyers could be directed to some of the kilt makers who advertise here. Hell, that abomination now known as US Army tartan seems to sell well.

Appears I also came to this thread untimely; hadn't even realized that my spankin' new kilt's considered, in better-traveled circles, an abomination. Turns out I like it pretty well, but then all my taste is in my peat-smellin' mouth (cheers!).

I wonder if your project of restoring some dignity and attractiveness to our army's tartan might be undertaken
in concert with a company already producing "tactical kilts?" Those are already popular with Snuffies.