A recurring theme on the various kilt pages

[Jock Scot]

I'm most concerned with the look that has been achieved here. Does it ring true to our idea of Grand Highland Formal Wear, or is it, as Jock seams suggest, way over the top for today?

Clearly, I was striving for something at least that is dignified with a measure of grace.

I am not sure that is exactly what I said, that your attire was over the top just for today. To be clear it is! What I meant to say was that your attire in the picture was over the top for a Haggis address at any time.

Your attire in the picture is entirely suitable for a formal of formal(white tie) event, rare though they are, even today. Without the bonnet and perhaps the shoulder plaid. Basically you are aiming too high.

In my youth Burns night was just a gathering in the local pub, just an excuse for a meet up really, and the attire was totally informal with very few kilts in sight. It is only in recent times that a Burns night has turned itself into a formal(black tie) event. To turn a haggis event into a "white tie" event is entirely over the top.

Most, if not all, formal Burns nights would have the kilted gentlemen clad in solid coloured hose, plain well polished black shoes-----maybe those "dreadful"(i have got to say that! ) ghillie brogues----- garter ties with hose tops folded over the ties, a Black barathea silver buttoned argyll(BBSBA) and waistcoat, or more usually, a black barathea PC, black waistcoat white shirt with black bow tie, and of course the kilt. NO bonnet or shoulder plaid.

Can you see/imagine the difference between what I have described and what you are wearing?

[Luke MacGillie]

When people here wont even wear a tie to shoot birds or skeet, yet will wear white tie Scottish clothing for a pub night. I guess I'm saying I have empathy for your plight!

[Taskr]

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Your attire in the picture is entirely suitable for a formal of formal(white tie) event, rare though they are, even today. Without the bonnet and perhaps the shoulder plaid. Basically you are aiming too high.

In my youth Burns night was just a gathering in the local pub, just an excuse for a meet up really, and the attire was totally informal with very few kilts in sight. It is only in recent times that a Burns night has turned itself into a formal(black tie) event. To turn a haggis event into a "white tie" event is entirely over the top.

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Thank you, gents. I have a better concept of what white tie formal should look like, should the possibility ever find its way onto my social or official calendar. While I did not post a "hey, what do you think" (keeping with OP of this thread) I did get some very good advice on morning dress in a separate thread.

The formality of Burn's Night is an interesting development, though I think we can't discount the secretive desire of even the ripped jeans set to dress to the nines now and then. Still, there is some balance to be had between self-want and host dress wants. Nice we have a resource to come to for guidance ... an the moxy to post "hey, what do you think"

[Shinenotburn]

I am not sure that is exactly what I said, that your attire was over the top just for today. To be clear it is! What I meant to say was that your attire in the picture was over the top for a Haggis address at any time.

Your attire in the picture is entirely suitable for a formal of formal(white tie) event, rare though they are, even today. Without the bonnet and perhaps the shoulder plaid. Basically you are aiming too high.

In my youth Burns night was just a gathering in the local pub, just an excuse for a meet up really, and the attire was totally informal with very few kilts in sight. It is only in recent times that a Burns night has turned itself into a formal(black tie) event. To turn a haggis event into a "white tie" event is entirely over the top.

Most, if not all, formal Burns nights would have the kilted gentlemen clad in solid coloured hose, plain well polished black shoes-----maybe those "dreadful"(i have got to say that! ) ghillie brogues----- garter ties with hose tops folded over the ties, a Black barathea silver buttoned argyll(BBSBA) and waistcoat, or more usually, a black barathea PC, black waistcoat white shirt with black bow tie, and of course the kilt. NO bonnet or shoulder plaid.

Can you see/imagine the difference between what I have described and what you are wearing?

Jock, I'll stand corrected then.
This is for high end formal events and not for a Burns Night.

I do appreciate your feedback.
Shooting high is what a lot of us McLeod do, over here>

[Jock Scot]

Jock, I'll stand corrected then.
This is for high end formal events and not for a Burns Night.

I do appreciate your feedback.
Shooting high is what a lot of us McLeod do, over here>