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    Thanks Father Bill and Tarheel!

    That clears it up. I hat bought him a really nice pair of black Church's cap toe a few years ago and I am glad that they will work. Saves us a bit of money too!

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    Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesuisprest View Post
    Thanks Father Bill and Tarheel!

    That clears it up. I hat bought him a really nice pair of black Church's cap toe a few years ago and I am glad that they will work. Saves us a bit of money too!

    Best,
    Adam
    Those shoes are excellent and the cap toe is an upgrade in formality like Father Bill said - but they are flexible too. I do like to wear my brogues for almost any occasion but when I really dress up I wear my black cordovan cap toes (since I don't have a whole-cut Oxford or exclusively formal shoe)

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    I always feel that the Oxfords are better than Brogues is one of those public school rules in the same league as "never wear brown in town".

    As far as formal kilted wear both are on equal footing (no pun intended) but Brogues are more common. I think this is because you are more adorned than you would be in a dinner jacket.

    Personally, I think they look best with trews but Oxfords are fine with a kilt, after all dancers ghillies are usually unadorned.

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    I agree that oxfords, especially high-quality shoes like Church's, are perfectly fine. I wear them frequently and I see others at kilted events doing likewise.

    I'm curious about the story behind your father's long-delayed return to the kilt. What's the occasion?

    Andrew

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    Are we talking proper brogues or are we talking about those dreadful ghillie things? If we are talking proper brogues, then, as we are specifically talking kilt attire, then well polished black brogues will do nicely for almost any occasion, even minor formal evening events. Likewise, so will well polished Oxfords with kilt attire and will do quite nicely for most black tie events . Not all shoes are made the same though and shoes with thick brothel creeper soles, or 4x4 style tread or a general "clumpy look" are best avoided if you want to cut a dash in your kilt around town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Are we talking proper brogues or are we talking about those dreadful ghillie things? If we are talking proper brogues, then, as we are specifically talking kilt attire, then well polished black brogues will do nicely for almost any occasion, even minor formal evening events. Likewise, so will well polished Oxfords with kilt attire and will do quite nicely for most black tie events . Not all shoes are made the same though and shoes with thick brothel creeper soles, or 4x4 style tread or a general "clumpy look" are best avoided if you want to cut a dash in your kilt around town.
    That's a unique description (in bold).
    Descendant of the Gillises and MacDonalds of North Morar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FossilHunter View Post
    That's a unique description (in bold).
    I did not coin the phrase!

    Maybe I am showing my age, but the term was used for thick soled shoes, in the 1950's/60's/70's and perhaps the 80's and possibly longer. I bet if you googled the term, something will pop up about that style of shoe.
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Are we talking proper brogues or are we talking about those dreadful ghillie things? If we are talking proper brogues, then, as we are specifically talking kilt attire, then well polished black brogues will do nicely for almost any occasion, even minor formal evening events. Likewise, so will well polished Oxfords with kilt attire and will do quite nicely for most black tie events . Not all shoes are made the same though and shoes with thick brothel creeper soles, or 4x4 style tread or a general "clumpy look" are best avoided if you want to cut a dash in your kilt around town.
    Sorry, I meant brogues as you mean brogues, not ghillies! I would never go anywhere near a pair.

    My apologies for neglecting this thread. I tuned out over the weekend and have only just looked at it now

    Thanks for all the responses!

    Best,
    Adam

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    I saw on an earlier post that someone could not get a good shine on their brogues. It was easier with the Oxford shoe.

    If you use the military style brogues, ask a Jock Vet for help. They should be shinning like a shilling on a black cloth when finished.

    It takes a wee bit of work, but will be worth it.
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