Oxfords with kilt

[CollinMacD]

Would like to know about the opinion on the two tone wingtip shows that are becoming popular. I like the look of the black toes, brown or black inside. They look nice.

[kingandrew]

I have always liked the two-tone "spectator" style shoes. However, I've never really considered wearing them with a kilt. I always picture them with my seersucker suit for stylish summer dressy daywear.

I think some of the brown on brown combinations might look pretty smart with the kilt, now that I am considering the matter. There are a few vendors out there who offer such shoes with the contrasting panels in tartan rather than white or tan. This might be a bit much, but if you use the same tartan on the shoes and the kilt, it would certainly tie things together. Of course, it would be pretty matchy-matchy.

On the ghillie brogue question: To better understand the aversion to the "White Heather Club," you might ask yourself how many people from the American South would want to dress like the cast of the "Beverly Hillbillies" or "Hee Haw."

Andrew

[Terry Searl]

I have always liked the two-tone "spectator" style shoes. However, I've never really considered wearing them with a kilt. I always picture them with my seersucker suit for stylish summer dressy daywear.

I think some of the brown on brown combinations might look pretty smart with the kilt, now that I am considering the matter. There are a few vendors out there who offer such shoes with the contrasting panels in tartan rather than white or tan. This might be a bit much, but if you use the same tartan on the shoes and the kilt, it would certainly tie things together. Of course, it would be pretty matchy-matchy.

On the ghillie brogue question: To better understand the aversion to the "White Heather Club," you might ask yourself how many people from the American South would want to dress like the cast of the "Beverly Hillbillies" or "Hee Haw."

Andrew

To be honest, If you live in the UK and even if you don't, you likely live closer to the American south than I do and are much more familiar with their dress. As for Hee Haw and the Beverly Hillbillies; Those shows are so vague in my memory that I couldn't tell you what get ups they might have worn, that Southern folk would find offensive.....certainly not what kind of shoes they wore on those programs but I do understand (I think) what you are implying. Thank-you for your response

[FossilHunter]

To be honest, If you live in the UK and even if you don't, you likely live closer to the American south than I do and are much more familiar with their dress. As for Hee Haw and the Beverly Hillbillies; Those shows are so vague in my memory that I couldn't tell you what get ups they might have worn, that Southern folk would find offensive.....certainly not what kind of shoes they wore on those programs but I do understand (I think) what you are implying. Thank-you for your response

For £12 I probably would have bought the thrift store ghillies too. But I love a deal and would go broke saving money if my wife let me.

I think western (think cowboy) dress is a good comparison to traditional kilt wearing. Think about how Marty McFly was dressed in back to the future part iii, with the ten gallon hat, red boots, and grilled shirt like gene autry. A lot of people dress in western wear in the Southwest, including east San Diego county and most of rural California. Someone dressed like gene autry would be seen as costumed up at a rodeo or county fair but no one would bat an eye at someone wearing Levi’s, brown or black boots under the jeans, and a camo ball cap (or even a plain black felt or white straw cowboy hat).

Frilled shirts and ten gallon hats are the western equivalent of ghillies and pirate shirts. At least from what I have gathered from our resident Scots.

[Terry Searl]

For £12 I probably would have bought the thrift store ghillies too. But I love a deal and would go broke saving money if my wife let me.

I think western (think cowboy) dress is a good comparison to traditional kilt wearing. Think about how Marty McFly was dressed in back to the future part iii, with the ten gallon hat, red boots, and grilled shirt like gene autry. A lot of people dress in western wear in the Southwest, including east San Diego county and most of rural California. Someone dressed like gene autry would be seen as costumed up at a rodeo or county fair but no one would bat an eye at someone wearing Levi’s, brown or black boots under the jeans, and a camo ball cap (or even a plain black felt or white straw cowboy hat).

Frilled shirts and ten gallon hats are the western equivalent of ghillies and pirate shirts. At least from what I have gathered from our resident Scots.

I liked your comment about going broke saving money Heh! Heh! I see your point perfectly now...The "cowboy" look in Alberta is totally acceptable and likely in the interior of BC as well. We are of a much more varied cultural population here on the coast, so speaking for myself, I would say we enjoy all cultural attire.

[Jack Daw]

What is it about Ghillie Brogues that some of you find so offensive?..Is it the long laces? I'm sure you can use shorter ones........is it the visibility of the kilt hose between the eyelets?......If you like the hose above the shoes , why not in the shoes? I'm not trying to be facetious about this, but some of you come on like you have dog crap on your shoes if you were to wear them.......I really am curious why such disparaging remarks are made about them......I look forward to reading the serious replies to my query......Thanx in advance

I don't find them offensive, but less comfortable than a pair of well-made wingtips that I can select in person, or already have in my closet. I actually have owned 3 pair of ghillie brogues that I purchased over the years for piping gigs. One aspect that I don't like is the brand or style that has the metal cap on the back of the heels. I don't like the attention they get when I wear them, and they are not worth restructuring. But, if I see someone wearing a pair, I don't wince and think what a fool; mostly, I admire the way they look on someone else. Regardless, the shoes are not necessary for casual, day dress, or evening dress, if you already have a good pair of wingtips.

[FossilHunter]

I don't find them offensive, but less comfortable than a pair of well-made wingtips that I can select in person, or already have in my closet. I actually have owned 3 pair of ghillie brogues that I purchased over the years for piping gigs. One aspect that I don't like is the brand or style that has the metal cap on the back of the heels. I don't like the attention they get when I wear them, and they are not worth restructuring. But, if I see someone wearing a pair, I don't wince and think what a fool; mostly, I admire the way they look on someone else. Regardless, the shoes are not necessary for casual, day dress, or evening dress, if you already have a good pair of wingtips.

Are the metal bits for parade shoes? I’ve seen Scottish regiment brogues on eBay with hose clickers.

[carlisle401]

Are the metal bits for parade shoes? I’ve seen Scottish regiment brogues on eBay with hose clickers.

Military brogues do not get issued with steel tips or heels. They are usually installed by the individual soldier. Some civilian companies sell with steel tip and heel.
For me there are too many places where I cannot have steel tips and heels.

[FossilHunter]

Military brogues do not get issued with steel tips or heels. They are usually installed by the individual soldier. Some civilian companies sell with steel tip and heel.
For me there are too many places where I cannot have steel tips and heels.

Interesting. Why would anyone add that then?

[carlisle401]

Interesting. Why would anyone add that then?

In my own case, make more noise when doing Royal Guard duties drill. Got an extra sole on my brogues as well to stiffen them better which kept them easier to bull (polish),