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    The trouble with "casual wear" is that it doesn't mean "slovenly wear" and a lot of folks confuse the two. As a school administrator, a casual day for me meant that I wore the same trousers, shoes, shirt and tie as usual, but a high quality jumper/ pullover sweater in place of a jacket. Too many folks would have thought it meant a sweatshirt, jeans, and boots, sneakers or flip-flops.

    I believe the only job-saving term is what they might call "smart casual" these days.

    In kilt terms, I think it probably means a proper tartan kilt (8 or 5 yd) sporran, hose, garters, dress shoes, and a tattersall type shirt.

    Here's my casual:



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    To me, anything less is an attack on both the kilt and the workplace.
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    Me at my office on a normal casual day. OK, I am the boss!:lol

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    The boss also has to post the letters too!

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    ------and patrol the boundaries!

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    Casual means no torn clothing, stains, or extensive skin showing. I t-shirts, no black jeans, no clothing with any graphics (only allowed small logos like those on Polo shirts).

    The dress code policy was reduced, in the sense that more choices of clothing were offered for women, but no change happened for men. I brought up the question regarding kilts (as these can be rather professional looking) and my boss’s boss’s boss’s boss said it was OK. Everyone naturally expected me to show up in one the following day.

    My work, while in an office setting, can be rather dirty as I need to do things with supplies.

    My khaki kilt has no exterior pockets (unlike most of the Utilikilts). I could probably get away with sneakers with this and a simple sporran. Every other kilt will require a more semi-formal attire.

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    Please, at very least wear kilt hose and sporran. Otherwise, it looks a lot like a skirt.
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    I am sorry, I am probably going to upset a few here, but I have to be honest here. I really don't think a cotton/canvas utility (and their like) style kilt could be considered smart enough to wear for the office, regardless of how carefully it is dressed up. If you must have one of that general style, then they are fine for hiking, the beach, gardening, workshop and so on, but for me, anything other than a proper wool tartan kilt is not smart enough for the office and I would be far from impressed if an employee turned up wearing a utility style kilt at the office to work there. In fact, they would only do it once!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I am sorry, I am probably going to upset a few here, but I have to be honest here. I really don't think a cotton/canvas utility (and their like) style kilt could be considered smart enough to wear for the office, regardless of how carefully it is dressed up. If you must have one of that general style, then they are fine for hiking, the beach, gardening, workshop and so on, but for me, anything other than a proper wool tartan kilt is not smart enough for the office and I would be far from impressed if an employee turned up wearing a utility style kilt at the office to work there. In fact, they would only do it once!
    A point of clarification, Jock—would you be opposed to a solid color wool kilt or a tweed kilt in that setting? In my view, a single color kilt would be more formal than a tweed kilt, and a tweed kilt would be on equal footing with a tweed jacket or suit and appropriate for some, though not all, office settings.

    Indeed, solid color kilts appear in full dress to great effect in portraiture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardtheLarge View Post
    A point of clarification, Jock—would you be opposed to a solid color wool kilt or a tweed kilt in that setting? In my view, a single color kilt would be more formal than a tweed kilt, and a tweed kilt would be on equal footing with a tweed jacket or suit and appropriate for some, though not all, office settings.

    Indeed, solid color kilts appear in full dress to great effect in portraiture.
    To be honest, I don't see many tweed kilts about and even fewer solid wool kilts about. I do see the occasional tweed kilt in estate patterns when out shooting or when visiting an estate for no particular reason, being worn by estate staff. Non tweed wool kilts are really thought of as rather "city-fied" and modern(rather than historical) these days and not for the residents of the country and better left to history.

    Would I mind if a male member of the office staff wore a tweed kilt? Personally, I would prefer if it were tartan.To clarify, women wear skirts.
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    At work (support to a factory floor) I generally wear either canvas kilts or PV tartan kilts. Both with an eye to laundering. On Scottish "High Days" I wear hose and garters. On standard "I simply feel like it" days, I wear combat boots with slouched socks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I am sorry, I am probably going to upset a few here, but I have to be honest here. I really don't think a cotton/canvas utility (and their like) style kilt could be considered smart enough to wear for the office, regardless of how carefully it is dressed up.
    In the OP's situation, his office allows jeans and sneakers, so a utility kilt would be "acceptable" in his location (I would consider utility kilts to be the equivalent of jeans). But yes, in an office with a standard dress code, utility kilts would probably be too casual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    To be honest, I don't see many tweed kilts about and even fewer solid wool kilts about. I do see the occasional tweed kilt in estate patterns when out shooting or when visiting an estate for no particular reason, being worn by estate staff. Non tweed wool kilts are really thought of as rather "city-fied" and modern(rather than historical) these days and not for the residents of the country and better left to history.

    Would I mind if a male member of the office staff wore a tweed kilt? Personally, I would prefer if it were tartan.To clarify, women wear skirts.
    I must confess, I do find myself daydreaming about a tweed kilt suit from time to time. Modern of me? Or historical?

    Sometimes they’re one and the same.

    By the by, is that Robertson Hunting in your lower photos?

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