
Originally Posted by
FossilHunter
black Argyll jackets pressed into service as black tie outfits...
This is the first thing I noticed. Remember that Prince Charlie coatees are a 20th century invention, and only in the second half of the 20th century became regarded by many as the end-all and be-all of Evening Dress jackets.
In Victorian times formal jackets were either of the Doublet or the Argyll cut, so I would regard a black Argyll not as an outsider pressed into service, but rather a much older and more traditional style than the Prince Charlie coatee.
About waistcoats, yes the Prince Charlie seems to have used the low-cut waistcoat from the beginning.
But the 19th century high-buttoning waistcoats long worn with the already-existing Doublets and Argylls began getting lower towards the end of the 19th century and into the early 20th.
Here's a Doublet worn with a mid-height waistcoat

Here's a black Argyll with high-buttoning waistcoat worn with Evening Dress, black bow tie, plaid, Evening Dress sporran, tartan hose, buckled shoes.

Here you can see a variety of waistcoat heights, from the high-buttoning one worn by the piper (with a Doublet) and a low-buttoning one by the centre dancer (with an Argyll)

which should challenge our assumptions about which sort of waistcoats ought to be worn with which sort of jackets.
Last edited by OC Richard; 20th July 18 at 05:05 AM.
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