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7th August 18, 04:45 AM
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They appear to be very well thought-out, practical, and well-made.
But in my opinion they're not a "sporran" per se, but a square cargo pouch with some superficial styling cues borrowed from sporrans.
It's mainly the proportions. Sporrans have, since the 18th century, had a certain proportion and shape. Like it or not, 300 years of tradition have defined what sporrans are shaped like.
I might have interest getting one if they made it look more sporran-like. Perhaps not even then- sporrans have evolved to perform a function, and IMHO do it very well.
Last edited by OC Richard; 7th August 18 at 04:46 AM.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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7th August 18, 08:52 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by OC Richard
They appear to be very well thought-out, practical, and well-made.
But in my opinion they're not a "sporran" per se, but a square cargo pouch with some superficial styling cues borrowed from sporrans.
It's mainly the proportions. Sporrans have, since the 18th century, had a certain proportion and shape. Like it or not, 300 years of tradition have defined what sporrans are shaped like.
I might have interest getting one if they made it look more sporran-like. Perhaps not even then- sporrans have evolved to perform a function, and IMHO do it very well.
I'm with Richard on this one. I do not consider that bag to be a sporran. A sporran is made with a metal cantle and animal hair. And has a sort of sideways D shape to it (Usually).
Last edited by PatrickHughes123; 7th August 18 at 08:55 AM.
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13th August 18, 04:46 AM
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While I too find myself treading the waters of traditional kiltwear, why can this not be a sporran? The essence of the sporran is that it's a purse, worn with the kilt, hanging around the area of the crotch, and carrying one's essentials. Here, yes, there has been a certain change in style and material of construction, but it is still a sporran. While the Scots of old may have had a wee trouble recognizing the material technologies and the closures, I don't think they would have argued with a man wearing one that it "isn't a sporran."
By all means gentlemen, let us have and hold dear our opinions. Let us love what we love, like what we like, and hate what we hate, but should we burden definition with the weight of our opinions? The arguments here are literally cosmetic.
I'll be wrapping myself in a kilt here shortly, styled in fine tartan, and donning my sporran, hairless and cantleless, though made of fine leather, after the traditional style, and in the traditional "D" shape of the day sporran. And indeed, I heartily agree, that a good traditional sporran serves its purpose excellently. But for all this if my utility kilt or MUG clad brethren don a zippered and velcro'd nylon pouch and shove their belongings inside, by goodness, they've donned a sporran, whether it strikes my fancy or smites it in the face.
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13th August 18, 05:25 AM
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Redneck Sporran
Looks like a sporran to me. Of course I was wearing a sporran long before I ever wore a kilt. Only then everyone called it a 'fanny pack'. Not sure why it is called that, since in the last forty years I have probably only seen three or four folks actually wearing one in the back. Quite a few on the side but the vast majority, including myself, wear it in the front pretty much like the traditional sporran. I am aware that there is a negative cachet to such wear among the trend conscious. That said, I suspect that if that bothered me, I probably would not be wearing a kilt several times a month either. I originally started when the doctor told me my wallet was causing my back pain. Found out how practical they were and never looked back.
Jack
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14th August 18, 06:55 AM
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Although I personally am not into the idea of a nylon sporran, this bag certainly is intended for use as a sporran and includes the flap and tassels common to many daywear sporrans. I do have a Stillwater Nightstalker "cargo sporran" in black leather that has many similarities in design to this new Survival model. It has a couple of zipper pockets to help organize your things, as well as a traditional pocket that opens by lifting the flap. When I wear it, it looks like a normal sporran, except for the discreet zipper enclosing a small "credit card pocket" in the flap.
I have seen a variety of sporrans on this site, from long horsehair models with a half dozen tassels to full-mask critters to Rob Roy and hunting models with some fairly elaborate leather tooled decorations. I'm willing to call pretty much any man bag worn in front of your kilt apron a sporran. I will admit I do prefer this Survival sporran over a fanny pack, but strongly prefer a leather model over any nylon sporran.
With the various utility kilt styles out there, and the sort of accessories many wear with those kilts, this cloth sporran with tactical elements should be a good fit.
Andrew
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