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13th August 18, 03:17 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by PatrickHughes123
Father Bill, I submit this in the most respectful way possible. I asked a simple question.
In Glasgow, while people do love their football team and can love their country through football, above that, they aren't really that patriotic. They have no sense of culture when it comes to things like whiskey, kilts, bagpipes, Gaelic, Scots Leid, Clans, St Andrews Flag, Lion Rampant and things like that. It's only football they love, not their actual culture or what it means to be a Scotsman.
I can't speak for Glaswegians and I have no interest in football but for many of the rest of us, although we may never express it, you can take the Scot out of Scotland, but you can never take Scotland out of the Scot.
If you are going to do it, do it in a kilt!
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13th August 18, 05:26 AM
#2
Father Bill, think we are walking a tightrope here, as this topic is very subjective, can result is some real emotion, and there is no answer that all will agree with. Agree, could get nasty very quick.
Last edited by CollinMacD; 13th August 18 at 05:28 AM.
Allan Collin MacDonald III
Grandfather - Clan Donald, MacDonald (Clanranald) /MacBride, Antigonish, NS, 1791
Grandmother - Clan Chisholm of Strathglass, West River, Antigonish, 1803
Scottish Roots: Knoidart, Inverness, Scotland, then to Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada.
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13th August 18, 10:58 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by CollinMacD
Father Bill, think we are walking a tightrope here, as this topic is very subjective, can result is some real emotion, and there is no answer that all will agree with. Agree, could get nasty very quick.
The word, subjective, is the detonator in any discussion/argument/feud, or what have you. Most any comment, regarding any subject, made by any one, might/can/will be found objectionable based on some other's thoughts/ideas/ideals/et cetera. From patriotism to food. I have been told, that I'm un-American. Specific statement, "What kind of American are you?!? Simply, because I don't follow baseball, football, or basketball. Also, because we drive an aging Range Rover & Land Rover. We don't fit someone's stereotype, so we are ostracized....no problem, it's only the anti kilt father-in-law. His attitudes have ignited some serious skirmishes.
On the forum, & given the subject, this could get very ugly. Hopefully, none will push this over the edge, leading to Moderator action.
"I can draw a mouse with a pencil, but I can't draw a pencil with a mouse"
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13th August 18, 11:34 AM
#4
Well folks, there's already one flag. Anybody else want to push their luck?
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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13th August 18, 11:56 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
Well folks, there's already one flag. Anybody else want to push their luck? 
On this thread?
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13th August 18, 12:17 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by PatrickHughes123
On this thread?
Actually, there are now two on this thread. As I suggested, it's a dangerous topic.
Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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13th August 18, 12:38 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
Actually, there are now two on this thread. As I suggested, it's a dangerous topic.
Which is exactly why my gob has remained resolutely shut.
When you encounter a minefield either walk around it, tread very lightly or send the idiot out to check for mines by stamping his feet 😳
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14th August 18, 02:35 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Father Bill
Well folks, there's already one flag. Anybody else want to push their luck? 
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14th August 18, 05:12 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by Tobus
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15th August 18, 02:05 AM
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One reason for Not wearing the kilt is it's not Scots, it's the clothing of the Gaelic Speaking people Who live in Scotland. for many centuries the Gàidhlig people were regarded by the Scots almost as as savages in the wilds of the Highlands. There are many who will never wear a kilt in Scotland even for a wedding. My sisters Husbands from central Scotland in Central Scotland didn't wear a kilt for their weddings, but my gaelic speaking brother brought up in the highlands did... in England..
Without trying to be insulting, Mr Hughes seems to be an enthusiast for Scotland, without understanding, the history and dress. This could be a problem with the internet, it's often difficult to understand what exactly people are trying to say or get across when not speaking to them face to face.
As an aside to that he has what is normally recognised as an Irish forename, a Welsh Surname, both spelt in the English manner and lives in Scotland. That together with the Gàidhlig people really does explain the Problem with Describing A "people" in Scotland (or come to that any other part of the United Kingdom)..
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