Scottish Patriotism

[Nomad]

Actually, there are now two on this thread. As I suggested, it's a dangerous topic.

Which is exactly why my gob has remained resolutely shut.

When you encounter a minefield either walk around it, tread very lightly or send the idiot out to check for mines by stamping his feet 😳

[pbutts]

Patrick,

I sense you are trying to reach out and find like-minded folks. It sounds like you’ve looked around XMTS enough to get a sense of what’s here. I would propose that this particular post was just too open-ended not to end up badly. Try something more specific, you’ll have more success.

[Macman]

Father Bill, I submit this in the most respectful way possible. I asked a simple question.

In Glasgow, while people do love their football team and can love their country through football, above that, they aren't really that patriotic. They have no sense of culture when it comes to things like whiskey, kilts, bagpipes, Gaelic, Scots Leid, Clans, St Andrews Flag, Lion Rampant and things like that. It's only football they love, not their actual culture or what it means to be a Scotsman.

Patrick, what seemed to be a simple question does get down to what different people mean by the word "patriotic". I know a couple of Scots who now live in Canada. One doesn't like the taste of whisky and the other doesn't drink alcohol. Neither would be caught dead in a kilt, nor do they go to highland games or other local Scottish events. However, both consider themselves as Scottish through and through, and I would consider them both to be very patriotic Scots.

[tokareva]

Neither would be caught dead in a kilt, nor do they go to highland games or other local Scottish events. However, both consider themselves as Scottish through and through, and I would consider them both to be very patriotic Scots.

This is very interesting, if possible, please elaborate on what the issue is these two patriotic gentlemen have with the kilt.

[Tobus]

Well folks, there's already one flag. Anybody else want to push their luck?

[Macman]

This is very interesting, if possible, please elaborate on what the issue is these two patriotic gentlemen have with the kilt.

For one of them, he says that he doesn't have the legs. I suspect that's he's a little nervous to wear a kilt. The other was quite vocal, even a bit disdainful. He said, essentially, that he didn't care about all that nonsense!

[tokareva]

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[The Q]

One reason for Not wearing the kilt is it's not Scots, it's the clothing of the Gaelic Speaking people Who live in Scotland. for many centuries the Gàidhlig people were regarded by the Scots almost as as savages in the wilds of the Highlands. There are many who will never wear a kilt in Scotland even for a wedding. My sisters Husbands from central Scotland in Central Scotland didn't wear a kilt for their weddings, but my gaelic speaking brother brought up in the highlands did... in England..

Without trying to be insulting, Mr Hughes seems to be an enthusiast for Scotland, without understanding, the history and dress. This could be a problem with the internet, it's often difficult to understand what exactly people are trying to say or get across when not speaking to them face to face.

As an aside to that he has what is normally recognised as an Irish forename, a Welsh Surname, both spelt in the English manner and lives in Scotland. That together with the Gàidhlig people really does explain the Problem with Describing A "people" in Scotland (or come to that any other part of the United Kingdom)..

[PatrickHughes123]

One reason for Not wearing the kilt is it's not Scots, it's the clothing of the Gaelic Speaking people Who live in Scotland. for many centuries the Gàidhlig people were regarded by the Scots almost as as savages in the wilds of the Highlands. There are many who will never wear a kilt in Scotland even for a wedding. My sisters Husbands from central Scotland in Central Scotland didn't wear a kilt for their weddings, but my gaelic speaking brother brought up in the highlands did... in England..

Without trying to be insulting, Mr Hughes seems to be an enthusiast for Scotland, without understanding, the history and dress. This could be a problem with the internet, it's often difficult to understand what exactly people are trying to say or get across when not speaking to them face to face.

As an aside to that he has what is normally recognised as an Irish forename, a Welsh Surname, both spelt in the English manner and lives in Scotland. That together with the Gàidhlig people really does explain the Problem with Describing A "people" in Scotland (or come to that any other part of the United Kingdom)..

I do understand it. That's exactly why I love it so much, I know Highland Dress was once restricted to the Highlands, I'm a lover of the Victorian Romanticism period and that's why I am so enthusiastic.

Yes, Hughes is both Irish and Welsh.

[The Q]

In love with Victorian Romanticism, that explains a lot