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27th September 18, 09:17 AM
#11
 Originally Posted by imbrius
Well, my standards are that it looks well-placed at formal-ish events like lodge dinners, Burns nights, etc. That it doesn't look like a "pub kilt". I am well aware that what I really want is a Tank. But I don't foresee a time when I'm going to have that much money to spend on something I'll only wear a few times per year.
OK, that's a good starting point. I would have to say that the thing that makes the most difference to my eye is the number/width of pleats. Casual kilts or "pub kilts" are easily spied from a distance due to their wide, shallow pleats. Whether a kilt is wool or PV is not going to be easily distinguished except by up-close inspection. So using a PV material can save cost without much (if any) reduction in visible quality. Using the most material possible within your budget will result in a kilt that appears to be higher quality, i.e. more traditional.
I like that USA Kilts lists the pleat width on each of their models. Their traditional 8-yard kilt has visible pleat widths of 0.8" to 1". Their 5-yard wool has 1" to 1.2" pleats. The 5-yard PV semi-trad has 1" pleats. The only thing is, due to the lower yardage, the pleats won't be as deep or swish as well as a higher-yardage kilt. But from a distance, it can look decent enough.
If I were looking in the price range you've mentioned, I'd probably swing for the 5-yard wool kilt. It will have about the same width pleats as an 8-yard, but just with less depth. The extra $100 expense for 5-yard wool over 5-yard PV will be in the material itself, which has a better swing/swish.
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27th September 18, 09:50 AM
#12
Just to throw one more option at you.... have you considered a 4 yard box pleat in 16 oz wool? It is a very traditional kilt and due to the lower yardage is usually less expensive.
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27th September 18, 09:55 AM
#13
 Originally Posted by Liam
Just to throw one more option at you.... have you considered a 4 yard box pleat in 16 oz wool? It is a very traditional kilt and due to the lower yardage is usually less expensive.
I have one of those and absolutely love it!
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27th September 18, 11:09 AM
#14
Also the price previously mentioned of $750 for an 8 yd wool kilt is perhaps in Canadian dollars
Here in the States you can get a bespoke wool kilt in 8 yds for about $600.00 depending on size.
Good luck with your decision - lots of good advice above.
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27th September 18, 12:59 PM
#15
 Originally Posted by Tobus
OK, that's a good starting point. I would have to say that the thing that makes the most difference to my eye is the number/width of pleats. Casual kilts or "pub kilts" are easily spied from a distance due to their wide, shallow pleats. Whether a kilt is wool or PV is not going to be easily distinguished except by up-close inspection. So using a PV material can save cost without much (if any) reduction in visible quality. Using the most material possible within your budget will result in a kilt that appears to be higher quality, i.e. more traditional.
I like that USA Kilts lists the pleat width on each of their models. Their traditional 8-yard kilt has visible pleat widths of 0.8" to 1". Their 5-yard wool has 1" to 1.2" pleats. The 5-yard PV semi-trad has 1" pleats. The only thing is, due to the lower yardage, the pleats won't be as deep or swish as well as a higher-yardage kilt. But from a distance, it can look decent enough.
If I were looking in the price range you've mentioned, I'd probably swing for the 5-yard wool kilt. It will have about the same width pleats as an 8-yard, but just with less depth. The extra $100 expense for 5-yard wool over 5-yard PV will be in the material itself, which has a better swing/swish.
Tobus, that was my thought process too! I decided on a 5yd, 16oz kilt from USA Kilts in Mackintosh. It's generally going to worn at highland games in California, out to tea with the family, or maybe a holiday dinner.
I did also get a PV casual for a "pub & hiking kilt" but think that the 16oz wool 5-yard is really the best compromise for what the OP is looking for.
Imbrius, I note that you are in Wisconson, so you'll probably have hotter, more humid summers and colder, wetter winters, so YMMV.
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28th September 18, 12:35 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by California Highlander
Tobus, that was my thought process too! I decided on a 5yd, 16oz kilt from USA Kilts in Mackintosh. It's generally going to worn at highland games in California, out to tea with the family, or maybe a holiday dinner.
I did also get a PV casual for a "pub & hiking kilt" but think that the 16oz wool 5-yard is really the best compromise for what the OP is looking for.
Imbrius, I note that you are in Wisconson, so you'll probably have hotter, more humid summers and colder, wetter winters, so YMMV.
You are correct. I tend to run hot, rather than cold, so lighter weight is appreciated. But 5 yards is 3 yards less swish than 8. :P
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