What is the consensus about shirts when wearing bow ties?

[Farmer Jones]

I have always thought of the winged collar as an English item and a hold over from when the British class system dictated specifics of manner and dress for different occasions. I have to wear them for certain ceremonial occasions and the ones I have obtained in Canada do not stand high enough to go above the tie, and I have noticed here that many men here tuck the wings behind the tie, so I do the same.

[TheGratefulNed]

However, may I please ask, that if you do choose to wear wing collar, please starch the collar so it sits (and more importantly, stays) over the bow tie. The collar should not be tucked behind the tie.

Seriously?! I've seen people with collars like that before, but always assumed they forgot to tuck the little tabs back or that their tie had shifted since they put it on. Personally, I think the little collar tabs over the bow tie looks ridiculous. I had no idea that's how it was intended to be worn. For me, it's mostly a moot point as I don't own any bow ties, have only had call to wear them 3 or 4 times in my life, and, even if I did, you'd hardly be able to see it or the collar tabs behind my beard.

[Blaidd]

Seriously?! I've seen people with collars like that before, but always assumed they forgot to tuck the little tabs back or that their tie had shifted since they put it on. Personally, I think the little collar tabs over the bow tie looks ridiculous. I had no idea that's how it was intended to be worn. For me, it's mostly a moot point as I don't own any bow ties, have only had call to wear them 3 or 4 times in my life, and, even if I did, you'd hardly be able to see it or the collar tabs behind my beard.

Yes, seriously TGN, I’m afraid. Hence the term starched collar; collars (usually detachable) were heavily starched to sit over the tie, like wings, in fact. Being a ‘traditionalist’ military man, I stick to those guidelines (as do Debretts), but like the correct way to wear a cummerbund, each to their own.