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13th August 19, 10:42 PM
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Welsh headwear
Not sure this is in the right placefor this question, but
what is the appropriate Welsh headwear with a cilt? Do they make Welsh clan badges?
Last edited by tokareva; 14th August 19 at 02:37 PM.
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14th August 19, 05:28 AM
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![](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37274&stc=1)
Apologies; my picture did not load correctly - here is a picture of my traditional Welsh headwear from my time on the National team, hence the username.
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14th August 19, 06:50 AM
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As far as I have seen, each Surname will have the 'normal' heraldic coat of arms, but I have never seen 'clan badges' per se. As for head dress........anything goes I presume!
Dduw Bendithia pob Celtiaid
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14th August 19, 08:46 AM
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![](http://www.karnival-house.co.uk/images/products/welsh-dragon-hat687.jpg)
Just kidding.
I think that since the use of the kilt by the welsh is an extremely recent practice, you can go one of two ways. First, since there is no traditional welsh kilt dress custom, wear whatever you please. Second, since welsh kilt wearing is inspired by that of Scotland, you could adopt/adapt Scottish kilted headwear to a welsh mode of kilt dress.
Personally I would stick with a balmoral, deerstalker, or similar such hat. Maybe in a color you think is more “welsh” in the way Irish caubeens are usually emerald green.
I you can’t find a welsh clan pin (if the welsh even had and analogue to the clan system) I see a number of silver dragon pins on google that might work.
Or a leek might be better since there’s a tradition of putting leeks in hats.
![](http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0172/7182/products/leek-pin-1_grande.jpg?v=1560446239)
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14th August 19, 11:21 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by FossilHunter
Just kidding.
I think that since the use of the kilt by the welsh is an extremely recent practice, you can go one of two ways. First, since there is no traditional welsh kilt dress custom, wear whatever you please. Second, since welsh kilt wearing is inspired by that of Scotland, you could adopt/adapt Scottish kilted headwear to a welsh mode of kilt dress.
Personally I would stick with a balmoral, deerstalker, or similar such hat. Maybe in a color you think is more “welsh” in the way Irish caubeens are usually emerald green.
I you can’t find a welsh clan pin (if the welsh even had and analogue to the clan system) I see a number of silver dragon pins on google that might work.
Or a leek might be better since there’s a tradition of putting leeks in hats.
![](http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0172/7182/products/leek-pin-1_grande.jpg?v=1560446239)
Welshgiftshop.com
Ha! That's hilarious, but perfect! Just what I was looking for, haha just kidding.![Doh](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/doh.gif)
I realize "clan" probably wasn't the right word, but wasn't sure what to say, maybe identification badge would be more accurate.
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14th August 19, 12:33 PM
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Maybe one of the usual bonnets with a badge from the link below.
https://stkildastore.com/index.php?r...scription=true
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14th August 19, 03:01 PM
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Last edited by tokareva; 14th August 19 at 03:03 PM.
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14th August 19, 03:55 PM
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A daffodil brooch may work. Like this on Etsy.
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14th August 19, 09:50 PM
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This is just a personal annoyance of mine, so no insult or anything aimed at OP;
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP THINKING THAT KILT IS SPELLED C.I.L.T?!! Yes I know the traditional Welsh alphabet does not have the letter 'k', but KILT IS NOT A WELSH WORD!!
Kilt is Scottish, therefore the correct spelling should be in Scottish, which is the same as in English. All of the British Isles speak English, that includes the Scots and Welsh. I also realize that spelling was not always standardized, but these days it is.
The Welsh have only been wearing kilts on a limited basis for maybe 30 years, all the while speaking English!
I beg of my Welsh cousins to please stop misspelling KILT. It just looks very wrong.
: Deep Breath: : Exhale:
Sorry just had to vent. Again, not aimed at anyone.
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15th August 19, 06:08 AM
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Actually, while the kilt is a Scottish cultural garment, the word "kilt" is not a Scottish word. It had various names in Gaelic, but "kilt" is an imported term. As I understand it, the origin is from Middle English, of Scandanavian/Norse origin. I do agree that there's an argument to be made for using a "k" as the proper spelling, although the "c" for the Welsh variant appears to be a way to make it their own.
But hey, at least they aren't pronouncing the word "cilt" as "silt" like the odd American manner of pronouncing the Boston Celtics as "Seltics"!
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