Bagpipe Hymn a Day

[Father Bill]

What a marvellous and generous contribution. I shall be a frequent listener, Richard. Thank you!

[OC Richard]

You're welcome!

Please, if you know any other Hymns using any of those tunes let me know and I'll add them.

And also...to any and all Church people...if you have a tattered old Hymnal that's too shabby to use I would love to add it to my collection, to add the Hymns contained in it to my "database". (Though only if it's a Hymnal not already in my collection.)

Ministers, Priests, choir directors, liturgists and others have been incredibly generous over the years! And thus my collection has grown. My hope is that their help will bear fruit.

I have the well-known 1982 Episcopal Hymnal, which is a wonderful thing.

For purposes of gathering data the easiest denominations are those who have a committee that creates that denomination's one-and-only official Hymnal.

Nondenominational churches which don't have Hymnals, that project the music up on screens, are impossible for me to tabulate.

In the middle, between those extremes, is the Catholic church. It might surprise people that the Catholic church (of which I'm a member) doesn't have an official Hymnal, nor a committee to create such a thing. Rather, the Catholic church allows laissez-faire capitalism. Anyone can publish as many different "Catholic Hymnals" as they please, and any Parish can buy whatever hymnal they want. I know of three publishers that each publish a half-dozen different "Catholic Hymnals".

Which means that I would have to beg, borrow, or buy 20 Hymnals to get some sort of handle on the Catholic Hymn situation.

(It makes sense when you appreciate that there are entirely Spanish-speaking parishes and Vietnamese-speaking parishes and Tagalog-speaking parishes...and that's just in Southern California!)

[PassingW]

Hello Richard -

I've sent you a PM regarding two hymnals I have and am happy to send your way.

Best,
Joel

[AFS1970]

This is a great project. I have often wondered why at the various church services I have attended that feature pipes there is very little liturgical music being played. This included my wedding, where all the hymns were with a organ and the Scottish music on the pipes separately.

I remember a few years ago the Roman Catholic bishop in NYC banned music that was not hymns at funerals and there was a huge outcry from the pipe bands for both NYPD & FDNY. The compromise was for the bands to play outside before and after the services, which I felt was a shame.

[OC Richard]

This is a great project. I have often wondered why at the various church services I have attended that feature pipes there is very little liturgical music being played. This included my wedding, where all the hymns were with a organ and the Scottish music on the pipes separately.

Yes that's a pity, when the pipes are a perfect vehicle for Hymn-tunes, if you are careful to pick tunes that fit on the pipes!

Most Hymn-tunes don't fit. Some are really impossible to render in any satisfactory way. Other only require minor tweaking to fit on the pipes.

So far (I'm at Day 34 now) I've been able to exclusively present Hymn-tunes that, as they stand, fit perfectly. Those are the gems! To not have to fudge the tune at all.

I remember a few years ago the Roman Catholic bishop in NYC banned music that was not hymns at funerals and there was a huge outcry from the pipe bands for both NYPD & FDNY. The compromise was for the bands to play outside before and after the services, which I felt was a shame.

Yes different denominations have their differing rules.

I've piped at LDS services. Prior to the first one I did, the Bishop mentioned that only Hymns found in the LDS Hymnal can be played. No problem, I said, I have an LDS Hymnal so I can check everything.

I've piped at hundreds of Catholic services over the years and the Catholic situation is that the Mass is a self-contained entity with a fixed structure. Part of it is that only Sacred music can be played during the Mass. As long as the pipes are playing Sacred music it doesn't violate anything, however there are a few Priests who don't like bagpipes no matter what music they're playing!

Before the Mass starts and after it's finished anything goes. Or I should say it's at the discretion of the Priest that's celebrating that particular Mass, some don't like having the pipes inside the church regardless, and only allow the pipes to play outside. (Sounds like the NYC Bishop was in that category.)

The other thing a piper runs into is dealing with the "wedding coordinator" or "funeral coordinator". Many of them take it upon themselves to create various rules and speak in the name of Clergy, saying "Father doesn't allow this or that". I've found that if I actually ask the Priest they'll almost always say "whatever the family's wishes are".

So, many has been the time that the coordinator has told me that Clergy doesn't allow bagpipes, but I ended up playing the pipes anyway, with Clergy's approval.

[OC Richard]

Hello Richard -

I've sent you a PM regarding two hymnals I have and am happy to send your way.

Best,
Joel

And I got them, thank you so much!

I'm particularly fascinated with the 1933 Baptist Hymnal, because it has no tunes, giving just the Hymn-texts.

So it's pure old-school! It gives the meter for each Hymn, for example

386. Oh, it is hard to work for God. C.M.

Now what does that mean? C.M. is "common meter" 86.86

I pull out my handy United Methodist Hymnal and go to the Metrical Index and see that there are around 30 Hymn-tunes in that Hymnal in C.M.

So on a given Sunday the choir director has a large variety of tunes from which to choose, if the choir is to sing #386 or any other Hymn in common meter.

It makes me wonder how common such Hymnals were, where there's no suggested tune for each Hymn, which modern Hymnals have.

Thanks again!

[OC Richard]

Just an update, today is Day 80.

I wonder where that stands in bagpipe Hymn-tune collections?

By the time I'm done, around 200 Hymn-tunes, it might be the largest collection of Hymn-tunes arranged for the Highland pipes.

[Ninehostages]

That's a good thing to do. There is too much "Amazing Grace" ... as nice as it is.

[OC Richard]

Exactly! I put up 60 Hymn tunes that fit perfectly on the pipes, and there are plenty more.

After Day 60 I've delved into the much larger world of Hymn-tunes that almost fit, that require a note substitution here or there.

I think one of the reasons Amazing Grace was such a bit hit on the pipes in 1971 was that it does fit perfectly.

Unfortunately the Hymns people usually request (other than Amazing Grace) are the ones that fit on the pipes the least well, tunes with a big range like SLANE (Be Thou My Vision) or ones with accidentals.