I picked up a second-hand P.C. What else do I need to buy to make the outfit work?

**Jock Scot** · 6th February 21, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Micrographia

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. My 2 cents...

- a tux shirt is good but a wing collar isn't needed, though if you want one go for it.
- a self-tie black bow tie is best. I wouldn't wear a regular tie with a PC or a tux shirt full stop. Looks strange.
- anything other than a silver metal cantle and fur sporran looks odd to me with a PC. Horsehair or full mask I could live with as alternatives.
- you don't need ghillie brogues. Your Oxfords will work fine if well-polished, though I'd keep an eye open for a pair of black Oxford brogues.
- solid colour hose of decent quality will do fine. Colour depends on your kilt, mine is predominantly green and red hose work well.

As already noted, you'll be wanting a formal sgian. Other details could include shirt studs and cufflinks. I'm UK based so can't comment on US jacket fit

. In general though fits can vary with cut and maker so buying without trying it on will always be chancy.

Best regards, EEM.

Sage advice here!

Many tend to overdress for most black tie events and the above advice will do you perfectly well for anything other than the most formal of formal evening events which are actually rare. Even then, care needs to be taken.

Don't believe me? Many won't!

Google ---- Michael Gove kilt-----and look at the images you will see Mr Gove a Scot, a British Government Minister and long time kilt wearer escorting a lady to a State Banquet given in honour of the American President and the First Lady at Buckingham Palace recently. The un-kilted gentlemen present will be wearing white tie but, Mr Gove is in his kilt attire and is dressed almost exactly as Micrographia suggests and is entirely suitably dressed for the auspicious occasion.

Perhaps some cleaver person here could provide a link to the picture?

**Tomo** · 6th February 21, 04:55 AM

I think Micrographia nailed it - the only thing I would add is if you don't want to go with a fur sporran, your best bet would be a hunting style sporran with a metal cantle.

**gsmacleod** · 6th February 21, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Google ---- Michael Gove kilt-----and look at the images you will see Mr Gove a Scot, a British Government Minister and long time kilt wearer escorting a lady to a State Banquet given in honour of the American President and the First Lady at Buckingham Palace recently. The un-kilted gentlemen present will be wearing white tie but, Mr Gove is in his kilt attire and is dressed almost exactly as Micrographia suggests and is entirely suitably dressed for the auspicious occasion.

Here's the image that Jock mentioned.

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Shane

**Jock Scot** · 6th February 21, 05:10 AM

Thank you Shane.

**Micrographia** · 6th February 21, 05:28 AM

Apologies all - edited post to expand a few points before realising there were replies!

Regards, EEM

**KennethSime** · 6th February 21, 11:03 AM

Thank you all, I feel a lot better after reading your responses. Frankly I was worrying that I had asked a stupid question.

I've come to feel pretty comfortable with kilting but this formal stuff is still out of my comfort zone. In addition to the oxfords, I think I'll start looking for a black bow tie, an appropriate shirt + cuff links, and either a hunting sporran with a metal cantle or a horsehair sporran. If I come across some black brogued oxfords that work for me all the better.

**Casaluz** · 25th March 21, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by KennethSime

Thank you all, I feel a lot better after reading your responses. Frankly I was worrying that I had asked a stupid question.

I've come to feel pretty comfortable with kilting but this formal stuff is still out of my comfort zone. In addition to the oxfords, I think I'll start looking for a black bow tie, an appropriate shirt + cuff links, and either a hunting sporran with a metal cantle or a horsehair sporran. If I come across some black brogued oxfords that work for me all the better.

I am glad you asked the question as you are not the only one with similar fears