Another Wedding Thread

[McMurdo]

That is a wonderful tartan. I'm looking forward to seeing the entire outfit together.

[OC Richard]

Lovely choices there!

As per Jock Scot's advice, for sure when I look back over vintage photos of weddings in Scotland the men are in Day Dress.

Note they're wearing the ubiquitous brown leather Day sporrans. The concept of "semi-dress" sporrans didn't arrive until the 1970s.



I note that in 1910 this author calls his outfit with tweed jacket, plain hose, ordinary brogues, and plain brown leather sporran "Morning Dress" which well fits into the wedding photos Jock posted above.

It wasn't until around World War One that bowties and spats ceased to be worn with men's informal Highland Dress. He's also wearing the high shirt collar of those times. Other than the shirt, tie, and spats Day Dress hasn't changed much over the last century.

[Wingnut037]

Interesting on the kilt pin placement in that 3rd photo. A bit higher than what I see lately. Thanks for all the replies.

[Jock Scot]

Lovely choices there!

As per Jock Scot's advice, ---------------



I note that in 1910 this author calls his outfit with tweed jacket, plain hose, ordinary brogues, and plain brown leather sporran "Morning Dress" which well fits into the wedding photos Jock posted above.

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Hummm, we need to be careful here. I would call a tweed jacket and plain(ish) sporran, day attire-------suit equivalent----- and the Black Barathea Silver Buttoned Argyll(BBSBA) , drop down tie and a slightly more elaborate(if one wishes)sporran as the more formal morning attire-------- a tailed morning coat equivalent-----.

I don't know if we are suffering the cursed mixed terminology syndrome that Scottish tailors are prone to have with attire, but to my knowledge from !940 onwards as far as I am aware, tweed attire has been suit equivalent and the BBSBA has been formal day attire. Of course since the 1970's the kilt hire industry has muddied the waters even more with their often conflicting and inaccurate advice, sadly illustrated so well with their myriad of unhelpful internet pictures.

[piperalpha]

Hummm, we need to be careful here. I would call a tweed jacket and plain(ish) sporran, day attire-------suit equivalent----- and the Black Barathea Silver Buttoned Argyll(BBSBA) , drop down tie and a slightly more elaborate(if one wishes)sporran as the more formal morning attire-------- a tailed morning coat equivalent-----.

I don't know if we are suffering the cursed mixed terminology syndrome that Scottish tailors are prone to have with attire, but to my knowledge from !940 onwards as far as I am aware, tweed attire has been suit equivalent and the BBSBA has been formal day attire. Of course since the 1970's the kilt hire industry has muddied the waters even more with their often conflicting and inaccurate advice, sadly illustrated so well with their myriad of unhelpful internet pictures.

Sadly Kilt Hire and Pipe bands will likely continue to drive what's fashionable.

[Jock Scot]

Sadly Kilt Hire and Pipe bands will likely continue to drive what's fashionable.

Yes the kilt hire aspect will continue to thrive as almost all of their clients have little idea, or care, of what it means to dress traditionally. Fortunately there are still those that are aware that there are demarkation lines between band attire and what is traditional civilian kilt attire and how and when it is worn.