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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen View Post
    Nah, one of my friends regularly wears kilt, trousers underneath and the hose which is where I got the idea from.
    Not be mean, the stuff you say gets stranger and stranger. Soooo... your friend tucks his trouser legs into his hose? How do you know he has hose on if he doesn't tuck his trouser legs in them? I presume you meant kilt hose. Otherwise, what would be the point of mentioning he wears socks? Oh, do tell.

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    I wonder if this thread has passed the point of useful discussion.
    Tha mi uabhasach sgith gach latha.
    “A man should look as if he has bought his clothes (kilt) with intelligence, put them (it) on with care, and then forgotten all about them (it).” Paraphrased from Hardy Amies
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    This thread is starting to remind me of the kid a while back who bought a ghille shirt with his kilt from a tourist trap and insisted that it was the traditional shirt to wear with a kilt, despite the shirt being a recent invention.

    Amateurkiltsman, you do you (and your friend can do what he likes) but realise that trousers under a kilt isn’t the way a kilt is intended to be worn. I still imagine it looking something like this (but hopefully with a proper length kilt):
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    Quote Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20 View Post
    This thread is starting to remind me of the kid a while back who bought a ghille shirt with his kilt from a tourist trap and insisted that it was the traditional shirt to wear with a kilt, despite the shirt being a recent invention.

    Amateurkiltsman, you do you (and your friend can do what he likes) but realise that trousers under a kilt isn’t the way a kilt is intended to be worn. I still imagine it looking something like this (but hopefully with a proper length kilt):
    My friend wears “traditional” highland wear and it looks great, honestly most people wouldn’t notice.

    I mean yea the way a kilt is traditionally worn is with nothing underneath, there again the way of traditionally doing ham radio is with a spark gap transmitter, just because it’s tradition doesn’t mean you should, especially when practicality (and legality and safety) is involved, compromises have to be made especially if you want to do it daily.

    Every one makes fun of new and unique ideas, it’s normal.

    It might not be how they are meant to be worn (even though woman do it all the time) but it is one of the ways they can be worn.


    As a side note, none of the highland wear is traditional as such, it’s all Victorian inventions because kilts were en vogue, none of it is trad, unless you want to wear a great kilt (without a shirt underneath either as those are a modern invention)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen View Post
    My friend wears “traditional” highland wear and it looks great, honestly most people wouldn’t notice.

    I mean yea the way a kilt is traditionally worn is with nothing underneath, there again the way of traditionally doing ham radio is with a spark gap transmitter, just because it’s tradition doesn’t mean you should, especially when practicality (and legality and safety) is involved, compromises have to be made especially if you want to do it daily.

    Every one makes fun of new and unique ideas, it’s normal.

    It might not be how they are meant to be worn (even though woman do it all the time) but it is one of the ways they can be worn.


    As a side note, none of the highland wear is traditional as such, it’s all Victorian inventions because kilts were en vogue, none of it is trad, unless you want to wear a great kilt (without a shirt underneath either as those are a modern invention)
    I’m guessing more people than not would realise that something is strange if your friend is wearing trousers under his kilt, stuffed into his kilt hose.

    And even if you’re right and most people don’t notice, I can guarantee that at least 99% of people who wear a kilt would notice immediately. By your logic, if I play my bagpipes out of tune, most people wouldn’t notice (because the general public thinks that’s what pipes are supposed to sound like). Doesn’t mean it’s pleasing, musical, or correct.

    The only new ideas that really get made fun of are the ones that don’t make sense. A kilt is, in a sense, the same part of the outfit that trousers are. You’re basically wearing two pairs of trousers at the same time.

    If you really want to convince us that this works, post a pic of you wearing your kiltrousers so we can see what you’re actually wearing instead of having to conjure a mental image from your description.

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    Ya' know, gang, this is what he wants to do. I don't like it or think it's normal or sensible, but he does, and it's his choice. I'm not about to try to convince anyone to wear their kilt or kit differently unless they're asking for sartorial advice.

    He's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    Ya' know, gang, this is what he wants to do. I don't like it or think it's normal or sensible, but he does, and it's his choice. I'm not about to try to convince anyone to wear their kilt or kit differently unles they're asking for advice.

    He's not.
    Exactly, my kilt, my trousers, my money, I can do whatever I want with them.

    As I have already said if you don’t want another valued member of your forum that’s ok with me, honestly a shame after such a warm welcome, we can either forget this or make a mountain out of a molehill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20 View Post
    I’m guessing more people than not would realise that something is strange if your friend is wearing trousers under his kilt, stuffed into his kilt hose.

    And even if you’re right and most people don’t notice, I can guarantee that at least 99% of people who wear a kilt would notice immediately. By your logic, if I play my bagpipes out of tune, most people wouldn’t notice (because the general public thinks that’s what pipes are supposed to sound like). Doesn’t mean it’s pleasing, musical, or correct.

    The only new ideas that really get made fun of are the ones that don’t make sense. A kilt is, in a sense, the same part of the outfit that trousers are. You’re basically wearing two pairs of trousers at the same time.

    If you really want to convince us that this works, post a pic of you wearing your kiltrousers so we can see what you’re actually wearing instead of having to conjure a mental image from your description.
    Unfortunately if you read my posts you know my last kilt was too small so I’m ordering another one soon, when I get that I will post a picture but probably with everything below the kilt cropped out to avoid a repeat discussion like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen View Post
    Unfortunately if you read my posts you know my last kilt was too small so I’m ordering another one soon, when I get that I will post a picture but probably with everything below the kilt cropped out to avoid a repeat discussion like this one.
    I, for one, would LOVE to see a photo of your kilted, trousered self.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen View Post
    As a side note, none of the highland wear is traditional as such, it’s all Victorian inventions because kilts were en vogue, none of it is trad, unless you want to wear a great kilt (without a shirt underneath either as those are a modern invention)
    If you are interested, there are quite a few people who make a distinction between traditional civilian highland dress and historical. Historical would fall into the appropriate time period and would include the great kilt as you mention.

    Traditional refers to looking at how kilt wearing has evolved through time, as worn by those who have been immersed in the culture and have worn kilts throughout their lives.

    There is a lengthy thread here with many photographs if you're interested.

    Shane

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