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I am very curious about the comments, apparently from residents in the Old World, that us in the New World have stricter rules about kilts.
Did I read that correctly ?
I always grin when reading anything about wearing a kilt "correctly". As part of a Scottish costume - sure - there would naturally be rules and traditions.
Kilts are the only similar type of masculine clothing I'm aware of in modern Western culture, and of course they're from Scotland. But I believe that while many of are appreciative of the Scotts for popularizing such a great garment, we simply wear them for comfort.
Is that "OK" ?
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Costume? COSTUME? Kilt attire when worn outwith the theatre, or, film set is NOT a costume! The term is, please: "kilt attire": 
In the "Old World" as you put it, there are with civilian kilt attire, traditions, conventions, accepted practice, experience and the elusive and the almost indefinable term of "good taste" , to follow and to consider, but, there are NO RULES to guide us. I should add that many of us over here do wear the kilt for comfort too. The military have things much better organised with their Dress Regulations, but not so for civilians. I think this is what confuses those of you outwith the Highlands of Scotland. I have to also add that the "Kilt Hire Company Look", with their myriad of unhelpful internet pictures, even within Scotland, does add to the confusion too!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 3rd July 24 at 06:02 AM.
Reason: Added a mild rebuke!
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Costume? COSTUME? Kilt attire when worn outwith the theatre, or, film set is NOT a costume! The term is, please: "kilt attire":

That's what I meant - as a Scot, living in Scotland, it's genuinely authentic. Here in America, we don't really have that option. Hence my reference to "costume".
I imagine others also consider how much of the overall traditional Scottish look that would normally go with a kilt in Scotland is applicable elsewhere.
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 Originally Posted by CBH
That's what I meant - as a Scot, living in Scotland, it's genuinely authentic. Here in America, we don't really have that option. Hence my reference to "costume".
I imagine others also consider how much of the overall traditional Scottish look that would normally go with a kilt in Scotland is applicable elsewhere.
Well, if we go with what more than some of your countrymen say on this website, there are some members here who are extremely knowledgeable about kilt attire and some----- quite a large number actually-----are very engaged in Scottish attire and their connections with Scotland. Personally I find it difficult to process their need, but then I am not looking at the situation from where they stand. However, much of their overall kilt attire is very much as we would wear here in Scotland, but the detail is not understood by them.
Some of their attire is influenced by your Continent's more extreme weather, some are influenced by enthusiastic ignorance, some are influenced by mis-understanding, some are extremely knowledgeable about Scottish history and their connection to Scotland, there are some with very fanciful notions about Scottish attire and Scottish history too! But -------BUT------there is no denying the interest in kilt attire in all its forms from your countrymen and others world wide on this website and some are just interested in the kilt and are not too bothered about Scotland at all.
Given enough time on here you will see many combinations of interest
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
...there are some with very fanciful notions about Scottish attire and Scottish history too! But -------BUT------there is no denying the interest in kilt attire in all its forms from your countrymen and others world wide on this website and some are just interested in the kilt and are not too bothered about Scotland at all.
Spot on here, Jock.
Highland dress, with all the how, why and when it is worn in its homeland seems to be an unitelligble concept to some, it would seem.
And 'kilt Kulture' has become little more than fancy-dress for many, and the likes of Highland Games are regarded as costume events to show off the latest acquisitions.
Personally, I can make no claims to being an expert on Highland dress (and nor would I anyway) but it's both amusing and exacerbating to be told we do it 'wrong' here in Scotland. Like many most people, I grew up with the kilt from a young age, and was guided in style, tradition and convention by older generations and peers whose experience and style I respected - as with other forms of clothing.
To us, it's not dressing-up costume, but a form of clothing that we wear naturally in various ways according to circumstances. Expectations there may be, but rules there are none, I woud say.
I recently had the delighful experience of going to see a certain gentleman of a paticular clan (in which he ranks near the top, and is known by the name of his estate) whose base is in Newtonmore (any guesses who that might be?) and found him going about his usual business dressed in a faded Rugby jersey from his youth, a dreadfully mis-shapen kilt with no sporran, and plastic Croc shoes.
What he was doing made his attire clearly logical to me, and no surprise, but I have wondered since what effect his outfit would have had on certain overseas visitors.
To me, it was just another form of 'traditional' Highland dress - the kilt being worn in its historic homeland in its simplest way for everyday chores, and the other garments met immediate practical need. But the style is a far cry from the 1930s catalogue ideal that seems to have become the benchmark look.
He worried me just the same - I felt he was taking risks by not wearing a protective vet-style apron.
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plastic Croc shoes.
Now that's unacceptable with any attire anywhere on earth.
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 Originally Posted by Troglodyte
Spot on here, Jock.
Highland dress, with all the how, why and when it is worn in its homeland seems to be an unitelligble concept to some, it would seem.
And 'kilt Kulture' has become little more than fancy-dress for many, and the likes of Highland Games are regarded as costume events to show off the latest acquisitions.
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To us the kilt and its attire, it's not a dressing-up costume, but a form of clothing that we wear naturally in various ways according to circumstances. Expectations there may be, but rules there are none, I woud say.
I recently had the delighful experience of going to see a certain gentleman of a paticular clan (in which he ranks near the top, and is known by the name of his estate) whose base is in Newtonmore (any guesses who that might be?) and found him going about his usual business dressed in a faded Rugby jersey from his youth, a dreadfully mis-shapen kilt with no sporran, and plastic Croc shoes.
What he was doing made his attire clearly logical to me, and no surprise, but I have wondered since what effect his outfit would have had on certain overseas visitors.
To me, it was just another form of 'traditional' Highland dress - the kilt being worn in its historic homeland in its simplest way for everyday chores, and the other garments met immediate practical need. But the style is a far cry from the 1930s catalogue ideal that seems to have become the benchmark look.
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Exactly so.
What is described above is a perfectly normal state of kilt attire in the circumstances and is quite unremarkable.  
Last edited by Jock Scot; 8th July 24 at 07:04 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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