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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post

    Neither tartans are included in the STA's copy of Clans Originaux. The earliest reference to the Murphy as Tara that I can find is in 1967. During the 1977 International Gathering of the Clans in Edinburgh this sett was sold to an American visitor as Murphy which is the earliest reliable reference I have for it.

    O'Farrell comes from the 1990s records of the now defunct US based TECA (Tartan Educational and Cultural Organisation). Again, there is no early record of this tartan and it appears to be a fashion design.
    Thanks for clarifying that! I'll change it.

    I'm trying to understand the Murphy/Tara thing more clearly. So the sett now known as Tara/Murphy first appears in 1967 simply as Tara?

    Is it known who got the idea to weave MacLean of Duart with a green ground, and who wove it?

    About the Clans Originaux mess, I took this

    Later research suggests that none of the tartans included in Clans Originaux are Irish.

    to mean that patterns in the book have been shown to be Scottish, not Irish, not that the patterns themselves weren't in the book, along the lines of "none of the accusations included in this report are true"
    Last edited by OC Richard; 12th March 25 at 03:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    Thanks for clarifying that! I'll change it.

    I'm trying to understand the Murphy/Tara thing more clearly. So the sett now known as Tara/Murphy first appears in 1967 simply as Tara?
    Correct

    Is it known who got the idea to weave MacLean of Duart with a green ground, and who wove it?
    Not that I know on either count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post

    About the Clans Originaux mess, I took this

    Later research suggests that none of the tartans included in Clans Originaux are Irish.

    to mean that patterns in the book have been shown to be Scottish, not Irish, not that the patterns themselves weren't in the book, along the lines of "none of the accusations included in this report are true"
    To be clear, those tartans are not in the book at all. Here is this list of the tartans.

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