Wanted: Lovat green tweed Argyle-type jacket and waistcoat, 44S

[BobF]

Our grandson is getting married in May, and I got an enthusiastic approval to wear a kilt. I’m not in the wedding party, so I don’t want to go full Prince Charlie. What I’m seeking is an Argyll-type lovat green tweed jacket and waistcoat. Ideally, it would be even simpler than the typical Argyll—I’d prefer no epaulets, plain pocket flaps, and plain cuffs, but I realize I can’t necessarily be that fussy. I wear a 44 short. The wrinkle is that I’m on a very limited budget, so I’m looking for well taken-care-of used, or ex-hire. I want to avoid Pakistan products, I’d prefer honest Scottish tweed. I live in the US. I know I can check in with a place like Ministry of Tartan, but before I incur international shipping charges and any possible tariffs (are there tariffs on used items?), I thought I’d first throw a query up here and see if I can scare one up domestically.

Thanks!

[jsrnephdoc]

I wear a 44 short. The wrinkle is that I’m on a very limited budget, so I’m looking for well taken-care-of used, or ex-hire. I want to avoid Pakistan products, I’d prefer honest Scottish tweed. I live in the US

Almost certainly this is not what you wanted to hear (and anyway, my Argyll is burdened with the metal buttons Epaulettes, etc.)

I thought briefly of loaning you mine, but I've not lived in CT since graduating from medical school 53 years ago, and sending mine on a long round-trip voyage would probably impact its availability for my own use, because I wear mine quite often, but good luck!

One other possibility, however, depending on WHEN the wedding is and WHERE your nearest highlands games will be held, if the games are an established local event there likely will be vendors selling used clothing (probably much of it ex-hire) for a tiny fraction of original retail pricing. I garnered my own PC and matching waistcoat from two DIFFERENT vendors at such an event in the tiny town of Hamilton, MT 4 years ago, and while some here would recognize them as not quite perfect, "not quite" is certainly good enough for the 2-3 times per year I wear mine. Alternatively, you might graze the Scottish (or American) retailers for sales of ex-hire clothing.

[BobF]

I thank you for at least considering sending yours along! The wedding is at the beginning of May, and we don’t have Highland Games here until the fall. I can certainly order from abroad (Ministy of Tartan lists some possibilities) but I’m hoping to avoid international shipping if I can, and thought I’d throw a flare up here first.

Thanks again, and be well.

Almost certainly this is not what you wanted to hear (and anyway, my Argyll is burdened with the metal buttons Epaulettes, etc.)

I thought briefly of loaning you mine, but I've not lived in CT since graduating from medical school 53 years ago, and sending mine on a long round-trip voyage would probably impact its availability for my own use, because I wear mine quite often, but good luck!

One other possibility, however, depending on WHEN the wedding is and WHERE your nearest highlands games will be held, if the games are an established local event there likely will be vendors selling used clothing (probably much of it ex-hire) for a tiny fraction of original retail pricing. I garnered my own PC and matching waistcoat from two DIFFERENT vendors at such an event in the tiny town of Hamilton, MT 4 years ago, and while some here would recognize them as not quite perfect, "not quite" is certainly good enough for the 2-3 times per year I wear mine. Alternatively, you might graze the Scottish (or American) retailers for sales of ex-hire clothing.

[geomick]

there are USA based sellers who carry the Gaelic Themes made in Scotland products

(my Lovat green Gaelic Themes tweeds came from USA Kilts)

[Touchstone]

there are USA based sellers who carry the Gaelic Themes made in Scotland products

(my Lovat green Gaelic Themes tweeds came from USA Kilts)

On the USA Kilts site you can modify the "Tweed Jacket and Vest - Custom" offer to omit the epaulettes, military style cuffs, etc.

If I'm not mistaken, the style you are looking for is sometimes called a "Wallace" jacket - essentially a normal Saxon sport coat cut to go with the kilt.

But buying what is essentially a bespoke jacket isn't much help if you're really looking to save money, though. Sorry about that

[BobF]

On the USA Kilts site you can modify the "Tweed Jacket and Vest - Custom" offer to omit the epaulettes, military style cuffs, etc.

If I'm not mistaken, the style you are looking for is sometimes called a "Wallace" jacket - essentially a normal Saxon sport coat cut to go with the kilt.

But buying what is essentially a bespoke jacket isn't much help if you're really looking to save money, though. Sorry about that

Thank you. No, I cannot at this point spring for a bespoke jacket, but knowing that the de-ornamented Argyll might have a specific name is useful information.

[kilted2000]

Don’t forget EBay for used jackets. I bought an ex-hire black argyle once. Not ideal but since May is so close this might be an option. I think it is Pakistan made but could be better than nothing.
https://utkilts.com/collections/jacket-and-vest

[User]

Don’t forget EBay for used jackets. I bought an ex-hire black argyle once. Not ideal but since May is so close this might be an option. I think it is Pakistan made but could be better than nothing.
https://utkilts.com/collections/jacket-and-vest

A word of caution, utkilts lies about their "woolen wool" kilts. They're actually synthetic. I don't know about their jackets. But you're taking a gamble if you buy from utkilts.

[jsrnephdoc]

A word of caution, utkilts lies about their "woolen wool" kilts. They're actually synthetic. I don't know about their jackets. But you're taking a gamble if you buy from utkilts.

I don't know how they can make money if indeed their "woolen wool" kllts are made from Scottish wool from fabrics "designed by House of Edgar (note, not specifically stated to be "woven" by House of Edgar), especially since they say that these kilts are more wrinkle-resistant than traditional wool kilts. They do have a "Contact Us" link on their website.

I wonder if some of their extremely low-priced items are used, although I don't know where they'd get stock in Ogden, UT.

I have NO personal experience. I don't see any information on their website that suggests they have a bricks and mortar shop. I sometimes drive through Ogden. Perhaps next time I'll try to find that out.

[jsrnephdoc]

Don’t forget EBay for used jackets.

I've not shopped at eBay for a LONG, long time. Curious, I took a peek.

All I can say is "danger, danger, Will Robinson" (translation: be careful

Two examples:

1. A seller of "Argyll" jackets without Argyll cuffs and a mixture of button types on the same jacket. Although the image says "last one," the size chart suggests ALL sizes are available.
2. And then, there's THIS (Oh, my GOD):

Described as a "Prince Charlie Formal Kilt Jacket