Defining a kilt

[Nick]

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet."
Romeo and Juliet

"What's in a name? That which we call a kilt
By any other word would swing a pleat."
Bear

I raise my glass to you for that!

If it has the general form of a kilt, and is tailored for a man to be worn as a man's garment, then it is a kilt.

[Galant]

Perhaps the best way to approach this is first to identify those things without which a garment could not be a kilt.

I'd say - men's, pleated, mid-length, skirt/un-bifurcated, of scottish origins.

[Raphael]

http://www.lip-service.com/style_clo...e=46-95-G&k=23

What if someone wears a Lip Service Kilt to your Local Kilts Night? what would you do? and What if that some one is from this board.

By most people's standard, they are not kilts at all but just cheap imitations. But these kilts are geared to the Goth/Punk group and they are not targetting to most of the people here.

I was checking out one of their new design at a local Goth/Punk Store yesterday. The new design has two cargo pockets on both sides and fastern via snap buttons. but unlike Utilikilts, they don't have a second apron. I was curious enough and tried that on and my wife had no objection to it. In fact she liked it. But the size was one size too big. I would have bought it, if they have the right size.

[Jimmy Carbomb]

True, as Matt pointed out, that you'll NEVER get a concensus on the definition. Just like jeans! There are Dungarees, Gloria Vanderbilts, Levi 501s, etc, etc. Are THEY all jeans?

I guess there's some leeway for construction and style in virtually every garment.

With kilts, I have always seen designations as the key. Authentic Traditional kilts are just what we all know. Casuals are something we know. As pointed-out with the Lip Service ones, they're just a little different in style and construction. Heck, UtiliKilts, PittsburghKilts and Freedom Kilts are something that the ancestors probably never envisioned... but probably wish they had! Ladies' have the minis, calf-length, and traditionals.

FOR ME: a kilt is deep pleated, knee length, dual aprons, and (usually) in a tartan. Other than that, I really don't give a rat's patoot what is considered a kilt. My beef has ALWAYS been the difference between authentic, hand-sewn traditional (wool traditional)... formal (alternate material traditional)... casual (any material and modern construction)... contemporary (like Lip Service)... and skirts (thin pleats and female oriented).

[Galant]

Yup, I thought about it today and was going to added dual-aproned, although perhaps one apron might suffice. It would certainly need at least one, and not pleated at the front of course.

[Alan H]

Between Bears rhyming and Riverkilt's up-front, I'm good to go!

[Raphael]

Speaking of Jeans, I wonder how many cowboys think the Tommy Hilfiger Jeans and Ralph Lareun Cowboy Boots are the real CowBoy wear? and do they sit in front of the computer to argue what are real jeans and cowboy boots?

[Doc Hudson]

Speaking of Jeans, I wonder how many cowboys think the Tommy Hilfiger Jeans and Ralph Lareun Cowboy Boots are the real CowBoy wear? and do they sit in front of the computer to argue what are real jeans and cowboy boots?

Before World War II, you wouldn't catch a real cowboy dead in a pair of Levi Jeans.

Jeans were for farmers and miners.

Cowboys were more likely to wear woolens, twills, or corduroys.

I won't kick the boot can of worms, but lots of folks won't even admit that mass produced boots are real cowboy boots. I've known some waddies who'd tell you they weren't real if they weren't hand made to order.

An old definition of a real cowboy was: "A fifty dollar hat, a fifty dollar pair of boots, and $1.98 worth of clothes in between." In more modern prices, it would be: A $300.00 hat, a $600.00 pair of boots, and $50.00 worth of clothes in between.