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28th March 05, 09:54 PM
#21
Wow, I must have been under a rock during all of this. When did the movie come out? Last famous person I heard in a kilt was George Clooney or Sean Connery...
Man, I gotta get out more.
"I don't know what to say to anyone and as soon as I open my mouth they'll say, Oh, you're Irish, and I'll have to explain how that happened." - F McCourt
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28th March 05, 10:11 PM
#22
Ah! Formula 51.....good movie. I own a copy on VHS.
A tad violent. Severely oversensitive types will have
a hard time with the swearing it's true. Fun film overall though. Pretty funny bit at the end with Samuel butt-nekkid....I believe it's part way into the credits if I recall right so you've got to hang for it..........I pull it down and watch it every so often. Swearing in an Irish/Scottish/British accent almost never offends me. It's all part of the culture and is humorous to me.
"Fide et Fortitudine"
(fidelity & fortitude)
ALBA GU BRAW!!!!!
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29th March 05, 06:52 AM
#23
In scotland the films called 51st state, Robert carlyle how is the main gangster is a Scot but is a master of regional accents hes even played Hitler on one occasion
Ive been in the pub they go in, but the interior is different, if you can believe it the real one is even rougher!!!
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29th March 05, 09:10 AM
#24
The language wasn't really a problem as it was realistic in its context (this was after all a film about a new designer street drug and organized crime). If this had been an animated movie about a family of mice going on a quest to rescue their missing child, I could totally understand the concern.
That said, I think it was a great flick. And that's despite SLJ wearing the kilt throughout.
And it's funny... until the last minute of the film you have absolutely no idea why he's wearing the kilt.
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29th March 05, 09:56 AM
#25
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Magnus Sporrano
The language wasn't really a problem as it was realistic in its context (this was after all a film about a new designer street drug and organized crime). If this had been an animated movie about a family of mice going on a quest to rescue their missing child, I could totally understand the concern.
That said, I think it was a great flick. And that's despite SLJ wearing the kilt throughout.
And it's funny... until the last minute of the film you have absolutely no idea why he's wearing the kilt.
i agree (except that I don't think it's "great" but, hey... :P )
Just for clarification, what do you mean "despite SLJ wearing the kilt..." I don't get that, but I just LOVED the fact that you have no idea why he's wearing it (nor does anyone else in the film)!
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29th March 05, 10:06 AM
#26
But really, does any one need a reason to wear a kilt?
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29th March 05, 11:30 AM
#27
I wasn't terribly into the film. I actually fell asleep about an hour and a half into it. I have a feeling there was a whole lot lost in the translation. There were supposedly some great comebacks to the "skirt" comments which were not in the film, which I would have loved to have heard.
The kilt was nice though. Anyone know what the comebacks were? I'll have to figure out the plot twist at the end on my own, I'm sure.
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30th March 05, 06:33 AM
#28
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JazzKiltz
Just for clarification, what do you mean "despite SLJ wearing the kilt..." I don't get that, but I just LOVED the fact that you have no idea why he's wearing it (nor does anyone else in the film)!
Oh I loved it, too. I just meant that the movie would have stood well on its own without the kilt in there. It's even better with, of course. I just mean I'm not giving this movie a good review just because the main character is wearing a kilt from beginning to end (well, with a notable exception... lol)
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30th March 05, 09:12 AM
#29
so far as I can gather for the main characther to have been called "mcelroy" (its constantly pronounced incorrecly in the film) its mac-ull-roy (ull as in "pull")
to have that name he would have either had a female ancester who married a mcelroy , or his slave ancesters would have been owned by the mcelroy family as often slaves would have the same surname as the slave "owners" cassius clay changing his name to muhamed ali is another example. I think he wants to money to right a wrong and tune the tables on the slave owners maybe??
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31st March 05, 09:52 PM
#30
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Magnus Sporrano
Oh I loved it, too. I just meant that the movie would have stood well on its own without the kilt in there. It's even better with, of course. I just mean I'm not giving this movie a good review just because the main character is wearing a kilt from beginning to end (well, with a notable exception... lol)
Oh, OK! I get it now. I think that's why I enjoyed the kilt in the storyline. It had absolutely nothing to do with anything that happened in the film (til the end anyway...)
Oh... and Lew Alcindor is another example of a famous African-American (athlete) changing his name (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar). In the 50's if you had a foriegn/Muslim sounding name, you could sometimes get service in restaurants, etc where the average "colored" person could not. Or so I've read.
I'm curious how the "traditionalists" on the board would see this issue in real life. Suppose someone decided to wear a tartan whose only connection to that tartan would be that someone's ancestor once owned his ancestors? (Is it just me or is that the most awkward sentence of the last few months?)
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