My first weekend in the kilt

**macgreggor** · 2nd July 05, 06:40 AM

as to the "Scottish invasion". i guess the guy thought that it only takes one scotsman in a kilt to invade......especially if he looks like DREAD!
macG

**Dreadbelly** · 2nd July 05, 06:46 AM

Invasion?

Does it involve the aquisition of good coffee? Tea mayhap? I am up for it.

Hurry, so many villages need ransacking, so little time!

**LordDamax** · 8th July 05, 07:04 PM

the saga continues... was gonna wear it for the 4th of july fireworks. my wife threatened to leave me, not just leave the fireworks, but leave ME if i wore it out to the park with her. she didnt tell this to me, but to the friends we were going with. "if he shows up in that thing i'm taking our son and going".

Odd thing is, a few days later i took my son up to my mom's house in NJ (I'm in MD) and wore the kilt... one of her big 'things' was not wearing it around her. well, i was leaving, not with her... so i wore it. she actually said "i dont get it, dont know why you'd wanna wear it" to which i told her thats all I ask... just repect me and respect my rigiht to wear it... don't ridicule me. acceptace would be great, but i'll settle for tolerance. then she was actually flirting with me trying to lift it up outside when we were loading the kid into the car. she played it off as 'someone else may do that to you you should be embarassed' but it came off more as flirting if you ask me.

so... maybe all isnt lost? i dunno. the woman is bi-polar if you ask me. ;)

ps. excuse the terrible lack of caps. my son ripped the left shift key off my keyboard, using the right one just isnt natural :-)

**Bob C** · 8th July 05, 08:02 PM

They're ALL bi-polar, LD.

**highlander_Daz** · 9th July 05, 02:15 AM

Women-luckily most scots women like kilts, however English ones are not quite as enthuseastic, its up to you what you wear my friend, most wives/friends need a reason theys ask WHY all the time even as a Scot people as WHY are you wearing that. Whats the occasion? one of my English friends always says "well I bought it to wear for a wedding and I just thought it was great so I wear it as often as I can its pretty cool and different do you not think??" most people say "ohh yeh I see yeh its pretty cool" or invent some long distand scots ancester/ Rob Roy /William Wallace etc

give them a reason and they will be happy, if you just keep saying "because I want to" then people will jump to their own conclusions (cross dresser/mid life crisis) etc etc.

**Riverkilt** · 11th July 05, 11:59 AM

Sorry Lord Damax....you got a bad case.

Here's how bad it can be...I'm up to 26 kilts in my first year....

Ron

**Phil Wright** · 11th July 05, 02:30 PM

Hate to disappoint you. but despite the occasional English-Scots thing for the last few hundred years, I have had nothing but positive comments English women. I've just got back from a change-ringing training weekend and decided to go kilted for the 21st Anniversary BBQ. No-one mentioned the kilt on the evening, but the following day I had loads of people I had never ever spoken to come up and say that they thought the kilt looked really smart and they were glad I had decided to wear it. I've now orn my kilts often enough to not have to think of them as 'special' and I think the attitude has a lot to do with it. If you can behave normally, and you have nothing to 'prove', then comments are neutral or, thankfully positive. I think the idea of trying to wear it where your wife can see that others actually admire it is the best option! Good Luck with breaking through the zone.
Phil

**Alan H** · 11th July 05, 02:45 PM

I have to say that if she's serious about that....."I'm going to take our son and leave him if he wears that thing"....if she really means it's divorce-time if you wear a kilt....

......then the two of you have issues FAR beyond anything that kilts may or may not cause. It's JUST A PIECE OF CLOTHING. That argument goes both ways, right?

....She says: Why do you have to insult me and degrade yourself and dress like a woman? You know I hate that kilt. Don't you care what I think and how I feel? It's not that important, it's JUST A PECE OF CLOTHING, can't you get rid of it?

....He says: You don't have to go all ballistic over the kilt. I just like to wear it, and it's a guys garment. There's no reason to pitch a fit, It's JUST A PIECE OF CLOTHING.

Because the "just a piece of clothing" argument goes both ways, the whole thing boils down to a simple matter of respect. You, as an adult, have the right to choose what clothes you want to wear. You can exercise that right with some degree of sensitivity towards the woman you are married to, but int he end, you have the right to wear what you want. If you roll over and let her dictate what you can wear....what's next? Would you let her dictate when you go to the bathroom?

You don't have the right to beat her up. You don't have the right to abuse your child. You don't have the right to to just any damn thing you please. But you DO have the right to wear an article of clothing that you like, as long as basic societal norms in terms of decency are respected.

If she simply cannot get that, if she insists that she has the right to enforce her views on what you can wear, then say "OK. If you have the right to forbid me to wear a kilt, then I have the right to forbid you to wear pants. So lose the pants, woman. Skirts and dresses only from now on."

That will go over like a wall of bricks. have an upfront talk about responsibility, respect and marriage. Hopefully she'll get the point. If she doesn't, if she simply cannot accord you the basic respect to let you wear what you want even now and then, well..... honestly? This is hard-*ss*d but honestly....

I recommend a professional counselor.

**Doc Hudson** · 11th July 05, 03:24 PM

As the victim of one surprise divorce demand, (Bank accounts closed, credit cards canceled, and I'm pretty sure my wallet was raided) I also suggest you take steps to protect yourself and your assets.

Truth is, guys generally get the dirty end of the stick in a divorce, if you are headed in that direction, try to protect yourself in advance. It will save lots of pain, anger, frustration, and poverty in the uncertain future.

Seeing a lawyer would be a good idea.

Good Luck and stand firm.

**Archangel** · 11th July 05, 07:44 PM

was telling my supervisor that my wife wanted an option in our new car so we got it. He says, "who wears the pants in your family?". I said, "I'm from Scotland, I don't even understand the question." He just put his head down on his desk saying, "Oh yeah, I've seen you."

Hope it gets resolved peacefully, if not, there's always Blue Cheer t-shirts, a couple of those and she'll be begging you to wear the kilt again.

Maybe she knows the truth. Wore my kilt to the music festival Saturday, wore my shorts on Sunday. On Sunday, no young women came up to me saying they loved my shorts. After Saturday's treatment, I was just crushed.