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14th July 05, 07:28 AM
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 Originally Posted by James
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On Lady Bowman’s last point, one of the Mackintosh chieftains is also be ancestral marriage Chief of the American Creek Nation, and I have seen him wearing simultaneously a kilt of Macintosh tartan and his feather headdress. For President Bush all is possible. Hail to the Chief.
From Hugh Peskett [Consultant Editor Scotland. Burke’s Peerage and Barontage.]
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James
MacKintosh gathering with Creek chief pictured on page 120 of Highland Clans and Tartans, unfortunately not as described.
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14th July 05, 07:38 AM
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McIntosh...
I have seen a McIntosh at the Tulsa, Oklahoma and Ft. Smith Arkansas Highland Games named Chinnubie McIntosh, who wears traditional Creek dress with his kilt -- he is the son of "Dode" McIntosh, once the Principal Chief of th Creek Nation (and I believe the individual picture in "Highland Clans & Tartans"), as well as one of the designers of the Tulsa District Tartan:
http://www.tulsascots.com/district.html
I've also seen a fellow at the St. Louis games dressed in a combination of Osage & Highland "kit".
Cheers, 
Todd
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14th July 05, 06:04 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
I have seen a McIntosh at the Tulsa, Oklahoma and Ft. Smith Arkansas Highland Games named Chinnubie McIntosh, who wears traditional Creek dress with his kilt -- he is the son of "Dode" McIntosh, once the Principal Chief of th Creek Nation (and I believe the individual picture in "Highland Clans & Tartans"), as well as one of the designers of the Tulsa District Tartan:
http://www.tulsascots.com/district.html
I've also seen a fellow at the St. Louis games dressed in a combination of Osage & Highland "kit".
Cheers,
Todd
are you familiar with this artists work: http://www.paramountpress.com/fromscottoam.html?
War dance is one of my favourite pieces and I've just realized I've been putting off buying it for too long. I'm rich now.
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15th July 05, 05:06 AM
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Although I tend to stay with tartans to which my family has a connection, I made some interesting discoveries while I was checking out my family to discover which tartan I could wear. When I first decided to buy a kilt, I was told by a kilt vendor at a Celtic festival that my family was not only an accepted sept of clan Macneil, it was also just a spelling variation of the clan name. I decided to check this out for myself, because I didn't wish to offend anyone. After all, the vendor might have just been trying to sell me a kilt. After a bit of research, I found the email address of Ian Roderick Macneil, the current Clan Macneil cheif. I sent him a message asking if my family was indeed a sept and if I could wear the Macneil tartan. His reply surprised me. First of all, my family is a sept, andI could wear the tartan. But then he added that I did not have to have a connection to the clan to wear the tartan, and that anyone could join the clan as long as they supported the ideals and the cheif of the clan. I got a similar answer from The House of Gordon, which is my middle name and the surname of my mother's family. Several other clans had similar responses. So it seems that the clans themselves for the most part don't care who wears their tartans.
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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15th July 05, 07:56 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by JerMc
So it seems that the clans themselves for the most part don't care who wears their tartans.
I get that impression, too, Jerry. I think it's much like various Native American tribes not caring if colleges use their tribal names as mascots - in many cases, they're honored that someone wants to call attention to their bravery and manliness in such competition.
I have a friend who went to Miami University (Ohio), and apparently the chief of the Miami nation would come up to Oxford each year and at halftime, perform a ceremony that would give the Miami name back to the school. And this was a team that was called the "Redskins" at the time. The PC hounds at the school have since changed the mascot, but they're obviously still Miami U.
Duck... I'm getting off topic... ;)
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15th July 05, 06:28 AM
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paintings...
 Originally Posted by Archangel
Yep -- I would like to have "Major Grant's Piper" hanging over the mantle someday! :mrgreen:
Cheers, 
Todd
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15th July 05, 09:53 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Archangel
Thanks for point out his work -- I hadn't seen it before now. Very nice!
Mark
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