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14th July 05, 05:56 PM
#21
physical appearance
I'd say part of the appeal is that the traditional tartan kilt is grand in a way that no meer suit is.
(Particularly the Great Kilt, though I understand that is now a historical costume).
Last edited by Tim Walker; 14th July 05 at 05:58 PM.
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14th July 05, 06:14 PM
#22
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Graham
Yesterday, a pastor who we have been staying with in denver, a man I respect for his wisdom and insight, and one of my dearest friends said to me "I've figured you out, I think you are a romantic"
That pastor sounds like a smart fella.
I think there is truth in the romantic ideal of a guy in a kilt.
I also think there is some 'real men' aspects of kilt wearing. Nowadays, men get so many crossed signals and the rules seem to change with every woman.
Wearing a kilt is a sign that some men have had enough and will simply wear what they want and do as they please, without permission.
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14th July 05, 07:03 PM
#23
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
Chivalry too.
Although part of my personality may be described as chivalrous, I think for the most part I just practice good manners (something else today's society is lacking). I'll hold the door open for anyone, man or woman, and especially the elderly. For me it's just the nice thing to do. Some don't apprciate it, but most do.
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14th July 05, 08:24 PM
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a hopeless romantic i am. i know it. but it seems like todays society won't let you show it. my father, bless his heart, i wish he were here now, gave me two bits of advice and one rather short lesson in manners.
Dad's Advice .....
1) when you shake a mans hand, you let him know you shook his hand. ( this lends credence to "get a grip" )
2) when a man offers you a beer, drink it and then offer him a beer and share the time.
On Manners ....
never ever do anything except respect, help and admire women and always say 'yes ma'am'.
well funny thing. to this day, whether a young lady or matron, i always, without fail, say 'yes maam', 'thank you maam', 'maam, can i help'? ....
oftimes, especially in more mature women, i receive a rather opprobrious look accompanied by a sardonic remark about how they aren't old enough to be called "ma'am". i usually say 'yes ma'am' and go on my way.
it breaks my heart and it is truly ashame our world is in such a state. in todays world if i were to lay my coat over a puddle allowing a woman to pass unscathed by muck and mud, i would appear as a chauvanist and not a chivalrous man.
a romantic i am. i know it. others may not. but i do.
ambrose
added the word "be" in a critical location
Last edited by awoodfellow; 14th July 05 at 10:30 PM.
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14th July 05, 10:22 PM
#25
A romantic peacock for sure. I do love to strut the bright colors and fringe fashions...even after nearly 61 trips around the Sun.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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14th July 05, 10:35 PM
#26
i didn't figure you to be two lustrums out from me River. ![Smile](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
i tip my hat to you Sir. for you have ten that i don't ....
brose
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15th July 05, 02:27 AM
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![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by awoodfellow
i didn't figure you to be two lustrums out from me River.
i tip my hat to you Sir. for you have ten that i don't ![Smile](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif) ....
brose
Guess who has been watching Rooster Cogburn and the Lady!
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15th July 05, 07:04 PM
#28
?
Perhaps enthusiasts could be described as romantic eccentrics?
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5th August 05, 02:10 PM
#29
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
Beware... A lot of women see chivalry as male dominance... They see good manners towards ladies, you know, opening doors and such, as being sexist.
Argh!
Well, a fair amount of 'manners' are often taken as 'requirements,' which is where many women get annoyed. It's one thing to open a door for a woman, it's totally another to race by her, open the door she's reaching for, and say, "There you go, ma'am!" with a cheeky grin.
It's one thing to call someone Mrs So-and_so, another to persist in that when asked to call her Ms. So-an-So becuase that's more 'polite.'
One thing to offer a hand so a woman having trouble on slippery ice in high-heeled shoes, another to offer to drive a new female coworker home alone in your car and act hurt when she does not take you up on it.
One is common everyday politeness, the other is condescension or bullying disguised as manners. A lot of things like laying a coat out are now seen as some sort of come-on, "Look at me, how nice I am for no reason other than your gender." I'd rather have someone be nice to me because I'm a person, not a woman.
I'm sorry, this kind of got my goat, I'm surprised that men who so often confront sexism don't realize when they're contributing to it.
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5th August 05, 02:22 PM
#30
![Quote](http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Shay
I'm sorry, this kind of got my goat, I'm surprised that men who so often confront sexism don't realize when they're contributing to it.
I dont quite understand, I think part of it could be in the eye of the beholder.
For example, What about a guy who does all the things you said on an everyday occurence, I do these things and am definately not a sexist I just like helping people out.
Not all men are trying to get into the pants of their female co-workers.
So this is why I think I am a "romantic" I am not nice to gain a one-up on a group, that is just the way I am.
Still, I dont quite understand your stance. I appologize ahead of time for my apperent ignorence on this topic.
Maybe I am confusing Romanticism with Chivalry...
Last edited by emeraldfalconoflight; 5th August 05 at 02:32 PM.
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