£750,000 cost of kilts for new regiment soldiers

**bubba** · 27th July 05, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by An t-Ileach

As for small sized kilts, though: what about those made for all those "portly" NCOs?

I've been kinda watching for surplus and I've never seen a kilt near my size listed. The biggest I've seen was a 36

**Mike n NC** · 28th July 05, 01:17 PM

yeah, their idea of portly is about on par with our slim I think. I'm not that big and I've not seen more than one or two pass along in anything like My size.

Mike

**sav** · 28th July 05, 01:23 PM

My great-grandfather's military kilt is still in the family (thank goodness!), and he wrote in his journal that he was considered very portly at the time (late 1800's)...his kilt measures a 29 waist.

~Sav

**cavscout** · 28th July 05, 02:12 PM

The US Army went thru a minor version of this issue a few years ago with the standard headgear becoming the black beret. The black beret was the special forces headgear for some units. Many vets hated this change, a handful of vets marched across the country to washington to protest the change. This kakamamy idea was to build Army level comradere and self esteem. ?!?!?!?!?

In a few years the new kids will not think twice about the signifigance of a black beret. In a world where your uniform contains symbols which honor those who came before and inspire those to follow the black beret was a special distinction for those men. The same is true for the kilts and trews.

I hope this works out well for the Regiments.

**bubba** · 28th July 05, 03:19 PM

Swiping the black beret from the Rangers was a gross insult. Trying to placate them by giving em the tan was stupid. Why in hell didn't they just issue tan and leave the black alone. I know it cost em veteran Rangers. A gentleman that lives a block from me resigned his commission at that time.

**arrogcow** · 28th July 05, 03:43 PM

The black beret was originally worn by the cav in WWII and then stolen by the rangers. I for one and glad that was taken back from them, stupid rangers.

Adam

**bubba** · 28th July 05, 04:17 PM

arrogcow, Just consider the loss of experience and ability it cost our armed forces. You're glad it left the Army weaker?

**macwilkin** · 28th July 05, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by arrogcow

The black beret was originally worn by the cav in WWII and then stolen by the rangers. I for one and glad that was taken back from them, stupid rangers.

Adam

I found this on a ranger site:

During WWII, the First Ranger Battalion, commonly known as Darby's Rangers, formed in Northern Ireland in 1942. Completion of training at the Commando Depot[ in Archnacarry, Scotland] afforded those Rangers the right to wear the British Commando green beret and the tartan of the Clan Cameron of Lochiel. The U.S. Army disallowed this and Rangers never donned their berets...

A great "what if..." story with a tartan connection. Archhacarry is in Cameron country, btw.

Cheers,

Todd