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28th July 05, 08:46 PM
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Arrogcow, screwing with traditions is not good for morale. Of course, desk jockys and bureacrats don't know anything about that.
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28th July 05, 09:13 PM
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 Originally Posted by bubba
Arrogcow, screwing with traditions is not good for morale. Of course, desk jockys and bureacrats don't know anything about that.
That was pretty much my point. Back when I was still in, I knew plenty of guys that harbored resentment over the rangers stealing our berets (obviously it carried over to me). Most guys I knew still had a black beret and would wear it on the first day back after an FTX (field tranining excersise), despite the fact that we weren't supposed to.
Messing with military tradition, bad.
Adam
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28th July 05, 09:23 PM
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All I know is that I hate the beret and there was a rumor that they wanted the entire Miltary to were them and Many Marines were all up in arms. Heck even when the Air Force almost went to those god awful blue cammies they were going to wear Marine Corps style covers, the octagon shaped ones. and people were up in arms. I know how uniform changes can bring about discontent. Heck I dislike the new digital cammies and those awful brown boots, now all Marines look like they are wearing pajamas. Nobody looks crisp and whatnot.
Good luck to the Units in the UK that have to make changes.
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28th July 05, 09:30 PM
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 Originally Posted by arrogcow
Messing with military tradition, bad.
Bingo. My position summed up very succinctly.
~Sav
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31st July 05, 09:34 PM
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liked this photo from the save the black watch site:
http://www.cma-webdesign.co.uk/black...ry/photo_1.jpg
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1st August 05, 02:02 AM
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Yes, kilts are right thing to do.
The reasoning is exactly right, the British MoD wants all Scottish units to wear kilts, because to the outside world: Scots wear kilts. What is intended is that this will be symbolic of the British Empire at it's height.
The UK Government gets credit way out of proportion for it's size because the Royal Navy kicked but at Trafalger, because the RAF stood against the Luftwaffe in the BoB and because the Scottish Regiments were the backbone of the greatest empire that this planet has ever seen.
If I were a Brit Diplomat and could say we kicked your *** and you Daddy's *** and your Granddaddy's ***, and we still can because we still have men in kilts, then the money spent would be very well worth it.
Nobody except us on this forum even knows what trews are.
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1st August 05, 06:56 AM
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 Originally Posted by Sir Robert
The reasoning is exactly right, the British MoD wants all Scottish units to wear kilts, because to the outside world: Scots wear kilts. What is intended is that this will be symbolic of the British Empire at it's height.
The UK Government gets credit way out of proportion for it's size because the Royal Navy kicked but at Trafalger, because the RAF stood against the Luftwaffe in the BoB and because the Scottish Regiments were the backbone of the greatest empire that this planet has ever seen.
If I were a Brit Diplomat and could say we kicked your *** and you Daddy's *** and your Granddaddy's ***, and we still can because we still have men in kilts, then the money spent would be very well worth it.
Nobody except us on this forum even knows what trews are.
and that is that. I love it when somebody cuts through all the blather and makes a really bad history statement that is actually the unassailable truth. It's like the north army, ragged army rules: bad history but true.
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