Hey CJ,

Still waiting to see the Spartan in person...but from the pics I gotta say it looks a LOT like the baggy pants the local gang-bangers are wearing, even out here in the boonies of the canyonlands.

Looks like these tough street kids are gonna "masculinize" materials that are normally used for lingerie. Have even seen guys in their 40's that work at the power plant or dam copying their kid's look.

I've been doing double takes thinking, "At last, another kilt in town..a Spartan...wait, its bifurcated...dang, pants again."

So if this soft material thing for gang bang pants holds up Spartan wearers may be more likely to be mistaken for bangers than for girlie girl men.

And I figure if the gang guys are wearing that soft material out here in the hinterlands of fashion its gotta be common everywhere else.

Ron