Finding "Your" Tartan

[Riverkilt]

One of the benefits of having many Scottish lines is that I can pick and choose the tartans I like and not feel "forced" to wear a tartan I don't like just because its a clan tartan.

And, don't forget, we're all X Marks the Scot Clan....so order up some of that fabric this go around

Ron

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Now you see why I say I can find a tartan for anyone!

Oh, and there is a tartan for South Dakota, kind of. There is a Black Hills tartan, designed by the Rev. John Pahls, for the Black Hills Highland Games. But I have seen it called "South Dakota" before, so at least someone is using it as a state tartan -- though I assume it to be unofficial.

[Jerry]

Macneil of Barra on my father's side of the family and Gordon on my mother's side. (my middle name is Gordon) My fathers side of my family is from County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, so I could wear that county tartan, or any of the Ulster tartans as well. I always considered myself to be of Scot Irish decent, but at The Richmond games I stopped by the Irish Society tent to enquire if they had any sources from which I could trace my father's family and was informed that even though they immigrated from Ireland, we are really Scots who immigrated to Northern Ireland. As for wearing the tartan of any other clans which are Septs of or variations of either Macneil or Gordon, I always was under the impression that the various Septs wore the tartan of the parent clan and not the tartan of another Sept? I also have a question for MAC Newsome:

Quote, Mac:

Now you see why I say I can find a tartan for anyone!

Mac do you know if Virginia has a state tartan. I have been unable to locate any. The closest related tartan I have found for Virginia is the Confederate memorial tartan, which I consider to have a big connection with Virginia since it is the birthplace of Robert E Lee and was, of course, the capital of the Confederacy. One other question just ocurred to me. MAC, I've always been told that my family is a sept or name variation of Macneil of Barra. How does one determine whether they are related to Macneil of Barra, or to Macneil of Colonsay?, or are we related to both and thus entitled to wear either tartan?

[davedove]

Mac do you know if Virginia has a state tartan. I have been unable to locate any. The closest related tartan I have found for Virginia is the Confederate memorial tartan, which I consider to have a big connection with Virginia since it is the birthplace of Robert E Lee and was, of course, the capital of the Confederacy.

There's also the Blue Ridge tartan:

[Cawdorian]

We can all find plenty of tartans, I can claim the following by heritage:

Lamont - Patrick (sept) on Dad's side, Brown (sept) on Mom's
Brown - Mom's side
Campbell - on both sides of the family
Bruce - Mom's side
McDonald - May (a sept) on both sides and by marriage
McGregor - Mom's side
McAlpin - Mom's side
Woods - Mom's side
Dunbar - Mom's side

Other's

Argyle Distrct
Ulster Red
Meath
Ayrshire
Georgia
Chattahooche ( I live 2 miles from the river)
Scottish National
Irish National
USA

There are probably a few I have left out, let's see now, this means I can add at least 17 more kilts to my "Kollection".

So many tartans, so few kilts!

[MacMullen]

Now you see why I say I can find a tartan for anyone!

Oh, and there is a tartan for South Dakota, kind of. There is a Black Hills tartan, designed by the Rev. John Pahls, for the Black Hills Highland Games. But I have seen it called "South Dakota" before, so at least someone is using it as a state tartan -- though I assume it to be unofficial.

Thanks Matt! Maybe you can answer another question for me - why is the "Wisconsin" tartan called, the "Wisconsin of Scotland" tartan? Is there anything in the notes about that?

I always considered myself to be of Scot Irish decent, but at The Richmond games I stopped by the Irish Society tent to enquire if they had any sources from which I could trace my father's family and was informed that even though they immigrated from Ireland, we are really Scots who immigrated to Northern Ireland.

How long did they stay in Northern Ireland? One would assume there would have been some Scots-Irish marriages somewhere in there, if they were there for any length of time.

[macwilkin]

How long did they stay in Northern Ireland? One would assume there would have been some Scots-Irish marriages somewhere in there, if they were there for any length of time.

Remember that the term "Scots-Irish" does not refer to a hybrid of Scots and Irish, but to Scots, both Lowlanders and some Highlanders, who resided in Northern Ireland as part of the Ulster Plantation. In general (and there are always exceptions), the Scots in Ulster were Protestant and did not marry their "native" Irish neighbors, who were Roman Catholics.

Cheers,

Todd

[Eujeankilt]

I have no Scottish blood that I can trace (many English surnames married in so there's got to be Celtic) but I recently found out my step-daughter has Scottish blood. Her G-G-G-G Grandmother was a Lindsay. I also have a Great Aunt who was born in Bathgate and she was a Dougherty (Irish?). There's got to be a tartan in there somewhere. My Father's ancestors, DuValls, came from Normandy and settled in Anne Arundel County in Maryland (Annapolis) which has a tartan http://www.district-tartans.com/anne_arundel.htm

I was born in Ohio which has a tartan too. I guess I've got a claim to a fair assortment. On top of that, I quite fancy the Nova Scotia tartan - I visited there as a youngster.


Dale

[Jerry]

Thanks Matt! Maybe you can answer another question for me - why is the "Wisconsin" tartan called, the "Wisconsin of Scotland" tartan? Is there anything in the notes about that?





How long did they stay in Northern Ireland? One would assume there would have been some Scots-Irish marriages somewhere in there, if they were there for any length of time.

From what I can find out, they moved to Northern Ireland in the 1700 or 1800s. I know my paternal grandmother was a Farrel. Also, everything I've been able to find on Mcneills, Mcneils, Macneills Macneils O'neils, and ect. say that we are all decended from "Nial of The Nine Hostages", an ancient Irish king and that The Macneils of Barra went to Barra from Northern Ireland back in 1400 or so.

[auld argonian]

Well, my Scot ancestor (as far back as they've been able to figure out) worked for Richard Lionheart in the Crusades (this was "Auld William") and got his parcel of land as a payment for his services. I'm guessing that it must have been in or around Ayrshire because the place has as many Latta's as there are in the whole United States. As the story goes, they were part of the Plantation and ended up in Londonderry where, eventually, Young William and his wife Elizabeth (a Rabbi's daughter) decided that they might do better in the Colonies and in or about 1750 made camp in what is now New Jersey.

So I guess that Ayrshire would be a good one (and I do like it). According to some website or another we're supposed to be a sept of Boyd. There is a Londonderry district tartan...but I'd have to wear it with a Star of David kilt pin...

...and my Great-to-the-nth-power-Grandmother was one of the ORIGINAL Jersey Girls. So I got that goin' for me.

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AA