Kilted noble

[Jerry]

Count on my vote also for Barb as Clan Queen here!

Sorry but I don't know if there's a femenine word to say chief!!! ( )

¡Salud!

T O N O

Closest thing I can come up with is "Matriarch"

[Iolaus]

Sorry but I don't know if there's a femenine word to say chief!!! ( )

I believe the proper term is "Chieftainess". ;)

[Valencian Kilted]

Wife?

Barb has my vote.

lollollol... good one, man

... but as any queen has a king, and a wife is a queen,.... are you sure that a husband is a king?? :mrgreen: surely yes for a few chosen by fortune!!!

Any kilt-lover volunteer girl looking for a kilted romance?

¡Salud!

T O N O

[Valencian Kilted]

I believe the proper term is "Chieftainess". ;)

Well, as you're the english speaker of both us, I'll accept that! Thanks Iolaus.

¡Salud!

T O N O

[macwilkin]

The Frasers have a woman chief, Lady Saltoun, who is Chief of the name and arms of Fraser:

http://www.fraserchief.co.uk/

Notice they refer to her as a Chief.

Cheers,

Todd

[Iolaus]

I got it from this page at TartansAuthority.com.

'Course it refers to the wife of the chief. but still... :smile:

[GlassMan]

A part of me can't help but wonder if the use of "Chief" by the Fraser's to refer to a female isn't just another instance of the abandonment of the feminine version of titles in English-speaking society. For example, many females who write books are now referred to as Authors instead of Authoress. And of course there are female Actors know instead of Actress.

Or it could be that it is the office that matters, such as the use of Lord Lyon even when that title was held by a female in the 60's because Lady Lyon would have referred to the wife of Lord Lyon and not to the office holder.

[macwilkin]

A part of me can't help but wonder if the use of "Chief" by the Fraser's to refer to a female isn't just another instance of the abandonment of the feminine version of titles in English-speaking society. For example, many females who write books are now referred to as Authors instead of Authoress. And of course there are female Actors know instead of Actress.

Or it could be that it is the office that matters, such as the use of Lord Lyon even when that title was held by a female in the 60's because Lady Lyon would have referred to the wife of Lord Lyon and not to the office holder.

I think you've hit the nail on the head in your latter point -- Lady Saltoun is the Chief of the Frasers of Philorth, with is the senior line of the Frasers.

I got it from this page at TartansAuthority.com.

'Course it refers to the wife of the chief. but still...

I hope no one thinks I was trying to question anyone's accuracy with my post, just wanted to point out that a woman can be a chief -- I know my wife is in my own wee glen! ;)

Cheers,

Todd

[Iolaus]

I hope no one thinks I was trying to question anyone's accuracy with my post...

Not at all ...we're just talkin'. ;)